Speakers : Spikes on Hard Floor / Ceramic Floor.

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Rony

Junior Audioholic
Do I need to use speakers spikes on Ceramic Floor ?
The speakers ( 70Kg each ) have rubber round feet .
Thanks.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Do I need to use speakers spikes on Ceramic Floor ?
The speakers ( 70Kg each ) have rubber round feet.
What do you think? Seriously (in case you're not a troll), what makes sense to you?

In case you are a troll, my answer is different. You must drill holes into your ceramic floor and bolt your speakers directly to the sub floor. And you must use solid brass, stainless steel, plastic, or other non-magnetic bolts to avoid interfering with the magnetic fields of the speakers.

All the series of silly questions you've posted here, reminds me of the guy who had to ask if his minivan would perform better if he painted racing stripes on it.
 
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Rony

Junior Audioholic
What do you think? Seriously (in case you're not a troll) what makes sense to you?

In case you are a troll, my answer is different. You must drill holes into your ceramic floor and bolt your speakers directly to the sub floor. And you must use solid brass, stainless steel, plastic, or other non-magnetic bolts to avoid interfering with the magnetic fields of the speakers.

All the series of silly questions you've posted here, reminds me of the guy who had to ask if his minivan would have improved performance if he painted racing stripes on it.
Shame on you.
a forum is for questions to people like me that don’t understand.
on finance I can teach you. Audio isn’t my main knowledge.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Shame on you.
a forum is for questions to people like me that don’t understand.
on finance I can teach you. Audio isn’t my main knowledge.
OK. Convince us that you are serious. Tell us what does make sense to you, and what makes little sense. And we'll proceed from there.

Hint: Compared to most other loudspeakers, 70 Kg speakers are very heavy.
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Shame on you.
a forum is for questions to people like me that don’t understand.
on finance I can teach you. Audio isn’t my main knowledge.
As has been suggested before, you have read a lot of fringe audio-phoolery publication about what is “important.”
This is why Swerd, as well as myself have suggested you may be trolling.
You say you get it, then come back with another silly question. Cables, then binding posts, for example.

What we don’t know is what you have in the way of equipment and how your room is set up.

You are focusing on the absolute minutia that really does not matter.

If good Sound quality is what is important, and you are on ceramic tile floors, you should absolutely have good area rugs with pads underneath to help absorb floor bounce (reflected sound waves). You should also be looking at everything else regarding the room… exposed windows without good curtains, furniture, the “stuff of life” that will help absorb and diffract sound waves naturally.
All of that supposes you already have your Speakers positioned properly for best acoustic performance.

Cables, feet or spikes…. These are all items which can either negatively effect your goal or maybe offer as much as a .1% improvement. Sadly, they are the most expensive ways to try to “fix” something that isn’t really an issue.

Now because you asked. Spikes couple the object on them to the floor. However, you say you have ceramic floors, which I take to mean ceramic tiling. Spikes, even with those little floor discs some spikes come with will do you no good. Your rubber feet are absolutely fine.
If… and please read that with extra heavy emphasis!… IF you feel it necessary to spend money on perceived problems in the face of other potential problems that can matter significantly more to Sound Quality, then you can try using something like the SVS Soundpath isolation Feet or the IsoAcoustic feet.
Not because I think you need to.
But because you have thus far expressed a willingness to spend money on many things that don’t matter. …And for some, the act itself is what matters.

But again, you are focusing on the wrong things!

If you want to engage in meaningful discourse about it, we are here and many of us will offer our advice and assistance.
The first piece of that meaningful advice is to look at your room and set up and identify what actual acoustic problems might exist before you even think of spending money on silly little trinkets like after market power cables, expensive interconnects or outright phoolish speaker cables. ;)

That’s it.

Now, one last thing, please. I already suggested you may be a troll or bot.
Prove us wrong. You’ve been asking these random questions. Many of us have offered help in he face of it all. Don’t go telling people we should be ashamed of questioning your intentions or humanity if you can’t draw a parallel between cables and binding posts and if they matter in the grand scheme of things.
That’s been answered now, several-many times.
If you want to learn something, engage with us. It’s pretty simple, really. :)

Cheers!
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Love those speakers!
If you enjoy your tile, do NOT use spikes.
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
I will reply tomorrow
mantime here is my living room.
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No need to reply or comment on my post unless you really want to go far afield of the goal.
I can already surmise several issues you likely have.
The extent to which you want to address them is up to you.

You will determine your own level of involvement.

Please do a Clap Test in your room. Walk around a little bit and clap your hands.
Listen for the echo.
This is one of the first things you should consider solving. I see a lot of hard, reflective surfaces which means you likely have a lot of Slap Echo. This will manifest as a ringing quality in your room at mid and higher frequencies.
It’s possible if the room is very large you may not notice the slap echo, but I suspect you will hear it if you listen for it.

Thank you.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I will reply tomorrow
mantime here is my living room.
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Gorgeous speakers my man and those Macintosh amps!!! SEXY!!! Great choices!!!

I would keep the rubber feet do not use spikes on tile or wood flooring

Your going to need a nice big area rug in front of that set up also heavy drapes on all those glass sliding doors and windows ESPECIALLY that window to the right by your speaker. That's a lot of bright reflective surfaces in that room. Luckily heavy drapes rugs and furniture should do the trick I had a similar room siruation in my old house with my setup
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
If you enjoy your tile, do NOT use spikes.
Agreed. Rubber feet under those speakers will be just fine. The purpose of spikes under loudspeakers is mechanical – they keep speakers from moving if they are on a carpet. Those speakers are unlikely to move no matter what kind of floor you have.

Most of your other questions, such as speaker cables, binding posts, after market speaker spikes, bi-wire or bi-amp set ups, etc., all involve superficial aspects of audio gear, at best. At worst, they're expensive jewelry, without a real function.

Don't read those audio web sites or magazines. They're full of paid advertising from the makers of that overpriced stuff. Don't get swept up by their nonsense.

You now have very good but very expensive speakers and electronic gear, as shown in the photo. Perhaps the audio dealer who sold it to you is trying to steer you in the direction of buying more audio jewelry from him. If so, ask him if his profit from the speakers and electronic gear wasn't enough. The profit margin from exotic speaker cables is huge compared to those speakers.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I will reply tomorrow
mantime here is my living room.
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P.S. you need a much more massive center channel with those beautiful beasts!!! Center channel does a lot of work in a multichannel setup!!!!

Or if your seating arrangement is in front of that setup like it appears run a phantom center those towers can handle it!!!
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Another thing. If there ever was a room that could use some acoustic treatments, this is it.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
There are different schools of thought for buying audio gear. Some people believe only the best, or most expensive, will do. And others seek to find that price range where performance is already excellent, without paying more. There are diminishing returns, where spending more is possible, but the increasingly high costs get you increasingly less performance gains.

In scientific or engineering terms, it's knowing when only the best available performance specifications are necessary vs. getting good enough performance.

The philosophy here at AudioHolics clearly falls on the side of good enough instead of only the best available. Most people, myself included, cannot actually hear the difference.

So, with all that in mind … Welcome to AudioHolics.
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
Don't waste any money on anything other than room treatments and placement of equipment. Gorgeous pieces there, but you could not have put them in a worse location in a more compromised room if you tried. Pics of the entire room would be helpful.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
with tile, room treatments are definitely going to benefit you. WAY more than power cables :)
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
Don't waste any money on anything other than room treatments and placement of equipment. Gorgeous pieces there, but you could not have put them in a worse location in a more compromised room if you tried. Pics of the entire room would be helpful.
agreed 100%, there is so much wrong with that set up ! Focal's are superb speakers, they deserve a much better environment. I too, given the quality of your equipment find it hard to believe your Audio dealer didn't do a better job of helping you out, shame on them !
 
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Rony

Junior Audioholic
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Hi all .
As promised , I'm replying. ....
I know that the room is not compatible to Audio especially with a Macintosh and Focal.
I live with my wife. this living room also hers , She doesn't want any changes or additional furniture or a CARPET.
She " agreed " to my expensive Audio gear. That's fine with me.
No other option available.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
View attachment 58324 Hi all .
As promised , I'm replying. ....
I know that the room is not compatible to Audio especially with a Macintosh and Focal.
I live with my wife. this living room also hers , She doesn't want any changes or additional furniture or a CARPET.
She " agreed " to my expensive Audio gear. That's fine with me.
No other option available.
Then you just stand up to her look her straight in the eye and SAY!............

Yes dear I LOVE YOU SO SO SO much :D
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
View attachment 58324 Hi all .
As promised , I'm replying. ....
I know that the room is not compatible to Audio especially with a Macintosh and Focal.
I live with my wife. this living room also hers , She doesn't want any changes or additional furniture or a CARPET.
She " agreed " to my expensive Audio gear. That's fine with me.
No other option available.
Many of us have to compromise with family and wives we understand

On the bright side a wife that would be cool with me buying that level of audio gear? I could live with those compromises ;)
 

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