Speaker wires for my Athena's.

RJB

RJB

Audioholic
I love it when this debate comes up again and again...

It's the same old story as far as I'm concerned, people pay and will continue to pay big bucks for quality speaker cables where the majority of the cost is for the name.

Does Monster ( and other specialty co's ) make cable that works well - YES
Do you pay a major premium for the name on the cable - YES

Once physics enters the equation the playing field get a lot more level. Regardless of who makes the cables, if they use good quality materials and have decent quality control the end result will be the same. It doesn't matter what a company claims to do during their "special" manufacturing process, they can't alter the laws of physics...

Would I spend $180 bucks for a 10' pair of cables - NO, not when I can get the same quality ( using applied physics ) from another manufacturer for $25 or less...

That's my opinion, not yours...
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
RJB said:
I love it when this debate comes up again and again...
...

Homeopathy been around 100+ years and still it comes up for debate among the less informed:D
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
.....Radio Shack Gold Line, SoundKing wire, and I'm done.....Monster?....off with it's head.....
 
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Fl_Gulfer

Enthusiast
I have a ? also.. I had my system assembled back in 98 8 olm speakers 5-1 system, the guy brought the cable its a grey cable (West Penn Wire its 16 awg cul type ul 75c) what ever that all means, anyway each wire is about 100 ft long "all 5" he told me they all needed to be the same length is this true? and shouldn't I have 12 awg with lines this long. my rears are about a 100 ft run of wire and the fronts are maybe 10 ft away.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/297762768/308938199NGVpbX
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
12 gauge should be ok for 100 foot runs if the speakers are 8 Ohm. Here is speaker cable info written by a former McIntosh engineer: http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable

As for needing to keep the wires all the same length, that is baloney. If your front speakers are 10 feet away, you need 10 feet of wire. For such a short distance, you don't even need 12 gauge, although it won't hurt if you use it.

Nice looking room. You know you can buy a corner wire mold (and even paint it) to hide the wires in the corner behind the tv. That's what we did for my sister's place as her tv is in the corner too and you can't even tell the molding is there because it blends right in.
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord
Fl_Gulfer said:
I have a ? also.. I had my system assembled back in 98 8 olm speakers 5-1 system, the guy brought the cable its a grey cable (West Penn Wire its 16 awg cul type ul 75c) what ever that all means, anyway each wire is about 100 ft long "all 5" he told me they all needed to be the same length is this true? and shouldn't I have 12 awg with lines this long. my rears are about a 100 ft run of wire and the fronts are maybe 10 ft away.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/297762768/308938199NGVpbX
Just move the AV rack and put the tower there.

This is why I don't like corner setups. Plus, its a pain for proper surround setup.

SheepStar
 
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Fl_Gulfer

Enthusiast
If I had somewhere to move the Rack I would, the double doors are to my 20 x 25 TV room, I had to turn it into a Mother-In-Law Apartment. So the corner setup is temp. soultion. If I move the rack I have to get longer wires from the receiver to the TV. My mother-in-law is 91 today so I will get the room back someday, then I'll just fill in the small hole in the ceiling. Thanks for the help I guess I'll find somewhere to order a few hundred ft. of 12 gage.
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Your wires don't have to all be the same length. It'd take a BIG difference in cable length to get an audible or even measurable difference.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Wow They saw you coming a mile away

sokrman14 said:
check out audioquest at www.audioquest.com I am using their type 4 speaker wire. It runs about $180 for a 10 foot pair, professionally terminated, and they blow away any monster speaker wire. Check it out though.

Must be nice to have money like that to throw it away on stuff like esoteric speaker wire.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Yup Okk

markw said:
You're implying that all 150 people heard the difference? That flies in the face of all speaker wire testing that's ever been done under proper conditions.
If it wasn't a double blind test, than the results aren't worth their weight in salt.
 
ducker

ducker

Full Audioholic
wow he has AS-F1 speakers... why on earth would he then blow hundreds of dollers on cable??? come on people, if you gonna post, post something something helpful that's in his ball park!

Ratshack gold works just fine... I went to Home Depot standard grey 14ga wire. I'm not running lenghs of more then 25' for my rears... and that works just fine.

Would 12 or 10ga work? Sure... but it's more expensive and what I gain out of it is small all things considered.
 
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kelly

Enthusiast
I believe that using good speaker wire is the right thing to do. I do however think that it is easy to get duped into going overboard when it is not necesary. I run a fairly nice system, and I use audioquest type 4. It is a couple of levels above entry. My friend and I have almost the same systems, but he uses audioquest bedrock, at about three times the price of the type four. I have heard no real difference. I would go with good middle of the road wire. Audiquest type 4,6, or 8 no higher.
 
Sheep

Sheep

Audioholic Warlord

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