Speaker Cable for KEF Q900?

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andresgt

Audiophyte
Hello,

I have recently purchased a pair of KEF Q900 tower speakers and a HK 3490 to go with them. Im sort of a noob so I was hoping to get some suggestions on speaker cable/ type or brand that would be best for audio quality?

Thanks!
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
Monoprice.com has some decent speaker wire..

14/2 or 12/2 electrical wire (with no ground) from your local hardware store can be a good option. I found the one from my local Rona a lot easier to work with than the monoprice stuff.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
Monoprice/Belden/Canare/Parts Express house brand.

I have some MIT EXP2 ($279) and guarantee you wouldn't be able to pick them out blind vs my $15 in Belden/GLS locking nanners.
 
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dnnone

Audiophyte
andresgt,
I also own a pair of kef Q900. Do you like it ?
I don't like it. I believe they are over price.
The quality look cheap compare to other $1800 speakers.
The sound is just so so compare to it's price. I try to sale it to get some thing else. Some thing is not made from China . Maybe Focal JM Lab.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
andresgt,
I also own a pair of kef Q900. Do you like it ?
I don't like it. I believe they are over price.
The quality look cheap compare to other $1800 speakers.
The sound is just so so compare to it's price. I try to sale it to get some thing else. Some thing is not made from China . Maybe Focal JM Lab.
I don't own the Q900. But I'm surprised they don't sound great to you based on reviews and experience with KEF. However, this just confirms that we are all different.

Where and when did you buy them? Safer to buy something you can audition first or return if needed.
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
Originally Posted by dnnone View Post
andresgt,
I also own a pair of kef Q900. Do you like it ?
I don't like it. I believe they are over price.
The quality look cheap compare to other $1800 speakers.
The sound is just so so compare to it's price. I try to sale it to get some thing else. Some thing is not made from China . Maybe Focal JM Lab.
What are you driving them with ?

And if you didn't like them why didn't you return them. Most if not all reputable dealers have a 30 day policy.
 
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MiguelF

Audiophyte
andresgt,
I also own a pair of kef Q900. Do you like it ?
I don't like it. I believe they are over price.
The quality look cheap compare to other $1800 speakers.
The sound is just so so compare to it's price. I try to sale it to get some thing else. Some thing is not made from China . Maybe Focal JM Lab.
I just listened to them this past weekend. I'm surprised you don't like them. They are not forward sounding, like B&W, but they are very detailed with, to my ears, a very pleasing sound.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I just listened to them this past weekend. I'm surprised you don't like them. They are not forward sounding, like B&W, but they are very detailed with, to my ears, a very pleasing sound.
I love KEFs coaxial drivers are awesome.
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
I'll pop in one more recommendation, which is Axiom Audio's Bulk Speaker wire
Not the typical recommendation, I know. But it's extremely flexible and really nice to work with - stays where you put it - and it has a black outer jacket! Which, for some odd reason, is really hard to find :p I've no idea why all speaker wire seems to be clear, white or grey, but I prefer a black jacket myself and this Axiom bulk wire is the best I've found for a fairly reasonable price (just under $1/foot).

Throw in some Monoprice banana plugs and you're all set :)

I get the sense that the OP has read about speaker wire making some sort of difference in the sound and the onerous claims of needing to "match" speaker wire to speakers in order to get the best performance. This sort of fiction still exists despite all of the data available and just the basic common sense that speaker wires carry electrical signals - they don't carry "music" :p

The ONLY thing a wire can do to a signal is degrade it. No wire can improve a signal. So the only way a wire can alter the sound that you hear is if it degrades the signal enough that it essentially acts as a passive EQ. When we're talking about the frequencies involved in sound, the primary source of degradation will be due to impedance. That is, the resistance introduced by the wire. So the biggest factor - by far - is nothing more than the gauge of the wire, with a thicker gauge (lower AWG number) being preferrable and a thicker gauge being necessary the longer the length of wire becomes.

Any 12 gauge copper wire will introduce very little resistance in lengths up to about 40 feet. So any 12 gauge copper wire - be it lamp cord, inexpensive bulk speaker wire, ridiculously expensive "audiophile" cables or a copper coat hanger - will work perfectly well in most home settings and provide a path for the electrical signal that introduces minimal degradation or resistance.

All the claims of expensive wire being "better" or "necessary" are pure marketing BS. The only thing they could possibly do differently than cheap, bulk 12 gauage copper is introduce MORE signal degradation. To be clear, that extra degradation might alter the signal in a way that the listener finds pleasing for some reason - by say, reducing the high frequencies or something like that. But any audible change in the sound is due to the signal being degraded and due to distortion being introduced. I would hardly call that any sort of "improvement" ;)

There is ONE valid reason to pay more for speaker wire, and that is looks. I'm willing to pay a bit more for Axiom's bulk speaker wire because it has a black jacket and I want a black jacket rather than a clear or white jacket :p You might also want fancier-looking speaker wire and be willing to pay more for that, which is fine! Looks are a perfectly valid reason to spend more to get the look that you want. But any claims of "better" wire, or wire that "improves" the signal, or wire that "matches" your speakers is pure hogwash.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
wire that "matches" your speakers is pure hogwash.
I sell the best high quality speaker wire on the planet for 100 dollars a foot you can have start of the art siberian's american made speaker cables. When someone comes to rob your house you'll be glad you can fight them off with siberian's state of the art speaker cable. I can tailor them to your speaker design. :p

For the record monoprice banana plugs aren't that great. They tend to unscrew on me.

When you are paying more for the wire than the cones something isn't right.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
For the record monoprice banana plugs aren't that great. They tend to unscrew on me.
I've had that happen too with the Parts Express ones, which are essentially the same thing as the Monoprice ones.
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
For the record monoprice banana plugs aren't that great. They tend to unscrew on me.
Really? I've never had that problem and I've been using Monoprice's banana plugs for years.

How are you screwing in the speaker wire? For the straight banana plugs, I insert the wire in the back, then splay the tip of the wire in all directions over the male screw head. That way, when I screw the end into the main body of the banana plug, it's pretty much impossible to pull the speaker wire back out and there's a tighet connection since a tiny bit of the speaker wire is overlapping onto the "teeth" of the screw head.

For the banana plugs that have the opening on the side of the main plug's body, I fold the exposed copper of the speaker wire over in half to make it thicker and insert that into the hole. Then, when I screw the bottom of the plug in, it compresses the folded copper and makes a really tight connection.

So maybe it's just the way I insert and either fold or splay the ends of the copper? But I've found the monoprice banana plugs to be perfectly secure :)
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Really? I've never had that problem and I've been using Monoprice's banana plugs for years.

How are you screwing in the speaker wire? For the straight banana plugs, I insert the wire in the back, then splay the tip of the wire in all directions over the male screw head. That way, when I screw the end into the main body of the banana plug, it's pretty much impossible to pull the speaker wire back out and there's a tighet connection since a tiny bit of the speaker wire is overlapping onto the "teeth" of the screw head.

For the banana plugs that have the opening on the side of the main plug's body, I fold the exposed copper of the speaker wire over in half to make it thicker and insert that into the hole. Then, when I screw the bottom of the plug in, it compresses the folded copper and makes a really tight connection.

So maybe it's just the way I insert and either fold or splay the ends of the copper? But I've found the monoprice banana plugs to be perfectly secure :)
I fold my wire over too with the side entry ones and they have still come loose. I still use them on my surrounds, but not on the receiver side or on my mains because of this.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I threw over a dozen Monoprice banana plugs in the trash. I think they suck.

I use the BJC locking banana plugs. Have for years now. Still in great condition.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
I've been using monoprice banana plugs for years without any issues.
 

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