Speaker cable elevators ?

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zoraduntov

Audiophyte
Do speaker elevators really help out the sound quality ?
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
Some people claim their hearing is so sensitive that they can hear the "thud thud thud" made by the footsetps of tiny bugs when they walk over speaker cables on the floor. Just imagine the sheer agony when a millipede crossed their path! :eek:

By elevating said cables, these tiny bugs can now walk under said spaker cables thereby releiving the owners of these cursed super-sensitive ears of the agony of suffering through all this infernal noise.

This is the second choice to solve this problem: Fitting said insects with tiny Air Jordans was too expensive and they couldn't teach 'em how to lace them up properly anyway.
 
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300exoh

Audioholic Intern
According to what I have read it does help especially on carpet where static buildup can generate a magnetic field around the wires potentially degrading the sound. I recently moved my wires so that they sit on top of the baseboards along the walls which keeps them about 2-3" off the floor and I honestly can't say that I hear any difference in sound...but you may. It's worth trying for yourself as long as you don't spend any cash doing it. There are many DIY methods to elevate the wires. You can use upside down solo cups to try the experiment. Personally I just used clear scotch tape to attach them to the baseboards.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Hmm, by moving the speaker wire along the base boards, doesn't that move them closer to the AC outlet wires running inside the walls and the magnet fields they present?

I would think that static discharge would be diminished by keeping the indoor humidity around 50%, or using an anti-static spray.
But to answer your original question....No.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
This is madness. Of course they don't make any difference.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
Do speaker elevators really help out the sound quality ?
I use 6 foot WOODEN stepladders. They HAVE to be wood. Bubinga is really the best choice. Make sure it's the tight grained varietal that went through a few seasons of serious drought.

It's the only way to be sure. Ya know.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
I use 6 foot WOODEN stepladders. They HAVE to be wood. Bubinga is really the best choice. Make sure it's the tight grained varietal that went through a few seasons of serious drought.

It's the only way to be sure. Ya know.
I disagree. Having the speakers stapled to the ceiling is best. Then you get those amazing highs.
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
According to what I have read it does help especially on carpet where static buildup can generate a magnetic field around the wires potentially degrading the sound.
:rolleyes:
 
Irvrobinson

Irvrobinson

Audioholic Spartan
The continuing level of snake oil in the cable industry amazes me. I'm especially fascinated by people that believe they can hear improvements from complex construction and geometries in power cables. Even 7 AWG conductors with 120v connectors seem over the top. Can't people understand that power cables aren't in the signal path? Or the miles of cable in the power transmission system that aren't special? Or even popping the lid on their favorite component the fancy power cord is connected to, only to find common hook-up wire or FR4 traces?

My all-time favorite snake oil product: cryo-treated electrical outlets.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
According to what I have read it does help especially on carpet where static buildup can generate a magnetic field around the wires potentially degrading the sound. I recently moved my wires so that they sit on top of the baseboards along the walls which keeps them about 2-3" off the floor and I honestly can't say that I hear any difference in sound...but you may. It's worth trying for yourself as long as you don't spend any cash doing it. There are many DIY methods to elevate the wires. You can use upside down solo cups to try the experiment. Personally I just used clear scotch tape to attach them to the baseboards.
I say the best test would be to rip all your carpet out and see if it makes a difference to the sound. :eek: :rolleyes: This is one that would seem to have an almost interesting theory, but in reality, is likely pointless. I'm glad to see that you didn't spend money on finding this out too.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
According to what I have read it does help especially on carpet where static buildup can generate a magnetic field around the wires potentially degrading the sound. I recently moved my wires so that they sit on top of the baseboards along the walls which keeps them about 2-3" off the floor and I honestly can't say that I hear any difference in sound...but you may. It's worth trying for yourself as long as you don't spend any cash doing it. There are many DIY methods to elevate the wires. You can use upside down solo cups to try the experiment. Personally I just used clear scotch tape to attach them to the baseboards.
Only in the realm of Star Trek physics. Seriously even with no background in science I'd hope consumers have enough sense to realize this product is a scam!
 
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300exoh

Audioholic Intern
Only in the realm of Star Trek physics. Seriously even with no background in science I'd hope consumers have enough sense to realize this product is a scam!
I never said I believed the claims but its one of those things I had to try for myself. I figured there was no way static electricity could effect the sound since the wires have shielding around them. Funny you posted this because I'm watching a program on H2 about star trek technology...it hasn't said anything about elevating wires though.:rolleyes:

Honestly getting rid of the crappy monster cable and replacing it with inexpensive wire from PE did more for the sound than elevating them. Much more mellow sounding without the brightness I had before. There are so many false claims out there its difficult for the consumer to to wade through the sea of BS to find the truth. There are some relatively convincing articles out there to "support" claims that various devices can improve the sound of your system and unless you have a strong science/electrical background you may be fooled. Personally I am a science buff and have taken an electronics course in high school and I'm still unsure about some of these devices/diy tricks.:eek:
 
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jaymz

Enthusiast
I canceled a subscription to "Stereophile" mag because they had an add for these things.

Jim
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
I never said I believed the claims but its one of those things I had to try for myself. I figured there was no way static electricity could effect the sound since the wires have shielding around them. Funny you posted this because I'm watching a program on H2 about star trek technology...it hasn't said anything about elevating wires though.:rolleyes:

Honestly getting rid of the crappy monster cable and replacing it with inexpensive wire from PE did more for the sound than elevating them. Much more mellow sounding without the brightness I had before. There are so many false claims out there its difficult for the consumer to to wade through the sea of BS to find the truth. There are some relatively convincing articles out there to "support" claims that various devices can improve the sound of your system and unless you have a strong science/electrical background you may be fooled. Personally I am a science buff and have taken an electronics course in high school and I'm still unsure about some of these devices/diy tricks.:eek:
Static electricity is Static! Signals propagating down a speaker cable are alternating. The two do NOT mix and the former is so weak it wouldn't matter if it did.

I wonder what happens when one has wood floors? Do they no longer have to worry about the "static electricity"?

What you really need to take your listening experience to the next level is the Audioholics GLOB speaker cable with IBS technology. I personally developed the tech in this cable and nothing on the market touches it regardless of price ;)
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I never said I believed the claims but its one of those things I had to try for myself. I figured there was no way static electricity could effect the sound since the wires have shielding around them. Funny you posted this because I'm watching a program on H2 about star trek technology...it hasn't said anything about elevating wires though.:rolleyes:

Honestly getting rid of the crappy monster cable and replacing it with inexpensive wire from PE did more for the sound than elevating them. Much more mellow sounding without the brightness I had before. There are so many false claims out there its difficult for the consumer to to wade through the sea of BS to find the truth. There are some relatively convincing articles out there to "support" claims that various devices can improve the sound of your system and unless you have a strong science/electrical background you may be fooled. Personally I am a science buff and have taken an electronics course in high school and I'm still unsure about some of these devices/diy tricks.:eek:
The other reality is that speaker wire, as long as it is the correct AWG for the run and load, has one of the smallest influences on the sound of your system. There's nothing wrong with Monster cable besides the fact that it comes from Monster and costs too much. Speaker wires are not shielded.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
The other reality is that speaker wire, as long as it is the correct AWG for the run and load, has one of the smallest influences on the sound of your system. There's nothing wrong with Monster cable besides the fact that it comes from Monster and costs too much. Speaker wires are not shielded.
Speaker wires can be shielded but I see very little need to do so unless you live near a HAM radio antenna or running a badly designed Class D amp that radiates high F junk.

See: Bulletproofing Your System from Interference — Reviews and News from Audioholics
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
...I am a science buff and have taken an electronics course in high school and I'm still unsure about some of these devices/diy tricks.:eek:
...and well you should be.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. It adds a bit of "credibility" to se ewords you've heard before.

A lot of the "hoopla" in tis hobby uses words that sound familiar to a lot of people but in scenariaos in which they were never meant to appear.
 

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