Sonus Faber Tower Speaker Comparison: Do they live up to the marketing?

haraldo

haraldo

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I meant most multi-millionaires and billionaires probably aren't as critical about this hobby as most of us. They definitely want something that looks beautiful and costs a lot and sound great. But they probably don't care if the speakers don't measure super accurately, etc.

Some billionaires may care. :D

However, as I've said many times in the past, I do think most high end speakers sound great anyway regardless of the measurements.
now we agree.... I don't think most Aida owners don't think about SQ :p
 
haraldo

haraldo

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Good catch, it was actually also misspelled in several sections of the write up. I think I got them all.
Gene... And how about Ktema, the last speakers coming from the guy who made Sonus Faber?
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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now we agree.... I don't think most Aida owners don't think about SQ :p
When your system sounds so good, you don't have to think or worry about SQ. ;)

You already know it's great, right?

It's like when you are confident, you don't worry about whether you know your stuff. :)

I can't comment on brands I've never heard. But I know for certain that speakers from RBH, Revel, KEF, Philharmonic, Salk, TAD, Linkwitz, Focal, ATC, NHT, Def Tech, GoldenEar, Martin Logan, Funk, PSB, etc. will sound great. I don't have to think about SQ with these brands. I just have to think about the FEATURES I want.
 
haraldo

haraldo

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When your system sounds so good, you don't have to think or worry about SQ. ;)

You already know it's great, right?

It's like when you are confident, you don't worry about whether you know your stuff. :)

I can't comment on brands I've never heard. But I know for certain that speakers from RBH, Revel, KEF, Philharmonic, Salk, TAD, Linkwitz, Focal, ATC, NHT, Def Tech, GoldenEar, Martin Logan, Funk, PSB, etc. will sound great. I don't have to think about SQ with these brands. I just have to think about the FEATURES I want.
I think you decide to be happy or not.... You're happy with what you have or you're not
Whatever system you have, there's always something better, so if yiu have Aida's you can still easily upgrade, but at some point you just gotta be happy :p

I don't think about features but if I enjoy the music :p
 
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Dennis Murphy

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I couldn't find the price, even though there's a headline reading "Retail Price." But that sure looks like a stamped frame woofer from the picture.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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Let me guess... ummm... bi-amping? ;)
Active bi-amping. ;)

Almost every speaker has PASSIVE bi-amping.

5 identical FULL-RANGE towers without the need for other subwoofers and the ability to control the bass like a regular subwoofer has always been my goal. :D

Active bi-amping the bass is how I achieve my goal.
 
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DukeL

DukeL

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I've never really looked at the Sonus Faber line before, so it's fascinating to me that their top-of-the-line product is a partial bipole. I say "partial" because it doesn't appear to be a bipole below the baffle-step region, and that's a valid design choice. I've worked with "full" bipoles and there are issues that have to be dealt with, but there are room interaction benefits as well. For nerds only:

http://www.hifizine.com/2010/06/the-controlled-pattern-offset-bipole-loudspeaker/

Stereophile has reviewed quite a few Sonus Faber speakers, and my recollection is that their measured behavior is generally quite good. I'm not sure anyone's measured behavior could live up to the expectations set by Sonus Faber's marketing department.

Incidentally, a bipole is probably not going to measure well using Stereophile's techniques, so I think we're unlikely to see them review the Aida.
 
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prk504

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I've heard the Olympica 3 and they are some of the best speakers I've heard in replicating the sound of a piano. They didn't really compare to similar priced B&W in general music listening, but in terms of replicating a live piano they are some of the best speakers IMHO


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haraldo

haraldo

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As I understand, the heart of Franco Serblin, founder of Sonus Faber, was with small bookshelf speakers. That due to their small size, being simple, lack of cabinet resonances, provided a magic that he just couldn't manage to get with larger speakers.

Here's an old intervju with Franco Serblin from Stereophile

Sidebar 1: Franco Serblin: speaker builder or Zen master?
I interviewed Franco Serblin, founder and president of Sonus Faber, one rainy morning at the June 1992 SCES in Chicago. We met at Sumiko's exhibit and conducted our discussion in the back of the room, where his Extrema loudspeakers were winning my vote for "Best Sound at the Show." Franco spoke mostly in Italian while his administrative assistant, Cesare Bevilacqua, translated. We were joined by Lorenzo Sen, a Vincenza audio dealer. Franco was charming, philosophical, and dressed as elegantly as he had appeared in the January 1992 Stereophile photo (p.83). In that picture, he knelt in front of a Sonus Faber Extrema, his jaw resting on his fist, like Rodin's The Thinker.

Franco grew up with classical music at home, listening to the piano. His father was a master carpenter. When he became interested in audio, Franco found that he changed his equipment every two to three weeks. He began to believe that there had to be a way to make audio components that audiophiles would keep for years.

The result of this thinking was Sonus Faber, founded in 1981 in Arcugnano, the "gold capitol" of Italy and the best place to buy handcrafted jewelry. "Sonus Faber" loosely translates into "handcrafted sound." That was Franco's dream: to combine, in a small speaker design, superb cabinetry with the finest drivers. He believes that a "big sound" is not necessary in the home. "People want an impressive speaker right away, but they change it the next year. With the Minima, even if you change, you take the Minima with you...I know of no used Minimas on the market."

Franco explained Sonus Faber's design philosophy. "We like your [American] point of view, for, after all, you started 'hi-fi'." But he suggested that Americans prefer large loudspeakers with high sound levels. He wanted to convey "the difference between European and American style." In Europe, the most important thing is the music; less important than owning a big amplifier or loudspeaker is having "a small corner [in which] to listen to the music you like." After all, "Here [pointing to his body] is the body, which is very big, and here [pointing to his head] is the spirit, which is very small but very important. The Minima is like the spirit."

The Minima's success in Europe over the eight years of its product life has convinced Franco that he should continue with his "less is more" design direction. Unlike manufacturers who modify their products yearly, Franco finds that it "is very important for us to have a product that has no change in the future." Therefore, despite reviews, the Minima will remain the same. I asked him if he might violate this principle by fixing the Minima's bass leanness. "No," he said, even though he began his career by designing a satellite/subwoofer system called The Snail (see Vol.11 No.3, p.34). He now designs small speakers only; in Italy, "there is no culture for subwoofers." He found the search for perfect bass futile. "When you want more bass, you miss it; when you have it, it disturbs you." The Extrema is the culmination of Franco Serblin's ideas, for it is the "extreme representation of the very pure 6dB" design.

In his best Zen style, Franco ended the interview by reminding me, "Nothing sounds better than things that aren't."—Larry Greenhill


Read more at http://www.stereophile.com/content/sonus-faber-minima-fm2-loudspeaker-franco-serblin-interview#Z18scMw2t6UL4J01.99
 

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