Some More Onkyo 8555 Questions I Thought Of...

[PearlcorderS701]

Corrections: post#14 & 17

I just noticed in post#14 the example I used show that -13.5 is equivalent to 68.5 but that was a mistake as I got it mixed up with their numbers given in the 5007's manual.

The 5007? What range/line is that? AFAIK, they only have two stereo receivers in their lineup -- the 8255 I think it is, and the 8555...

For the 8555 the range in absolute display is min, 1 to 79 and max, but they did not say what it is for the relative display.

Right...I am completely aware of this, and you are correct -- there is no mention of the scale for the relative display, which made things even more confusing.

It could be from -80 to 0, I cannot be sure but it really does not matter. For the 5007 it is -infinity, -81.5, through +18 and min, 0.5 through 99.5 and max, basically 0 to 100.

Again -- what is the reference to "5007" -- is this one of their AVRs? Or is it the Integra counterpart version?

Also, in your post#12, you asked the question "Relative to what?" I would say relative to the amp's output level at any particular moment;

Okay, THAT'S what I was trying to ascertain -- at least we're getting a bit closer to something here; so, instead of it being "relative" to a "reference level" as with a surround AVR, it would be "relative" to the amp's absolute output?

and again, if the volume display shows -10, turning it down to -13 would cut it's output at that moment by 3 dB.

Fair enough; I still don't understand, though, essentially why a stereo unit would be given this "relative" scale option -- I'm not getting my head around that one.

Thanks for your thoughts and input so far; for derailment purposes and due to apparent ongoing harassment once again suffered in these threads, I would ask you take our conversations privately, as I've already put certain members I don't want to hear from on "ignore". Looking forward to your replies via PM.

 

[TLS Guy]

Absolutely TSTOE

 

[Seth=L]

Absolutely TSTOE

LOL

I still don't understand, though, essentially why a stereo unit would be given this "relative" scale option -- I'm not getting my head around that one.

This is the last response I'm going to chug here. Since you're going to contact the techs at Onkyo you'll have the best answer that anyone could give you.

My best guess, as I've already stated, is that it's there simply because that wanted to give users the option to use the preferred scale. The fact is, it can't serve a real function other than personal satisfaction. Be happy they aren't charging you more to have it in there like some exotic cable company charging you more for a cable that is supposed to bring a silky smoothness to your sound system.

While entertaining to me and certainly others and has served to irritate some otherwise pretty cool headed people, you turned an otherwise simple conundrum into a lengthy thread. This level of discussion would make more sense if you had asked a question about phase angles or something.

I believe the same goes for your speaker thread which is going on for over 100 posts with no end in sight as it doesn't seem you've made any level of conclusion about what speakers you are going to buy. Well, you have ears don't you? Why don't you go listen to some speakers and buy what sounds good to you? I don't know about you, but that's how I would choose which speakers I would want to own.

I also think it's pretty silly to come here, ask us questions, and then when we answer them you stammer around and are uncertain about advise or answers that we give. If you feel our answers and advise aren't up to your pedigree then maybe you should go somewhere else.

 

[Seth=L]

I spelled advice incorrectly. Now I just feel foolish.

 

[tomd51]

Yikes, what a trainwreck. I was curious to the "questions" as I'm using an 8555 for an outdoor receiver, but after four posts, I should've known enough to turn away.

I want that 15 minutes of my life back... -TD

 

[Seth=L]

Yikes, what a trainwreck. I was curious to the "questions" as I'm using an 8555 for an outdoor receiver, but after four posts, I should've known enough to turn away.

I want that 15 minutes of my life back... -TD

If you happen to have a question though it might give this thread a purpose.

 

[tomd51]

If you happen to have a question though it might give this thread a purpose.

Herein lies the rub. I thought I might be able to contribute and that ship sailed immediately after docking.

Okay, how 'bout this: how reliable do you feel the 8555 is for supporting a 4 ohm four speaker configuration at moderate levels? I've been considering a change of my outdoor speaker configuration and when the time comes, I'd be nice to not have to worry about it.

Most of the input I've seen is that Onkyo overbuilt the amp section on this unit, but it's always nice to hear other opinions. And sorry to disappoint, but I probably won't argue with you after asking for your input... -TD

 

[Seth=L]

I feel that it would be safe, however the previous models seemed to be more stout such as the TX-8511. I honestly don't think you'd have a problem. After all, I've used my tiny little Teac CR-H220 to drive large full range speakers like the Vandersteen 2Ce, rated at 4 ohms nominal, without incident and moderate volume levels. Of course I'm not going to get crushing output with a mere 25 watts per channel, but it didn't seem to give up much gas to me.