single 8" vs. dual 6.5"

[yepimonfire]

i have a choice to make, floostanders with a single 8" woofer or dual 6.5" woofers, one driven for low bass, one driven for high bass. which do you think would sound better bass wise? the way the 6.5" ones function is as a woofer to subwoofer type crossover system.

 

[AVRat]

Which speakers are you asking about? Your question is too general.

 

[yepimonfire]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4828703&sku=S196-0510
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4828702&Sku=S196-0508
i have a pair of the 8" woofer ones already, im planning on building a 7 channel floor-standing music system and want to use the single 8" woofer speakers for the surrounds, im just not sure if the dual 6.5 ones would make for better bass response of the fronts

 

[3db]

Do you have a budget in mind? There a better options than Sony for loudspeakers. Have you looked at used loud speakers?

 

[WmAx]

Utter trash.

Get Behringer B2031P. It is VASTLY superior. You won't do better for the money, anywhere.

If you have , or will buy subwoofer(s), the Behringer B2030P is a better option. However, the B2030P is designed expressly to be used with subs, so it does not LF extension. The B2031P is designed to work without subs, but you give up a bit of mid-range resolution in exchange for the LF extension.

-Chris

 

[yepimonfire]

i am on a wicked tight budget, and those speakers are not trash, i own a pair of them. they are pretty good for the money. they are clear mids and highs and have decent bass. ive auditioned a few expensive high end speakers before just for the fun of it. these sound amazingly good for the price. ive been using sony equipment off and on for a long time. they consistently manufacture good products. if you want trash, look at KLH speakers. biggest mistake ever lol. let me ask, have you ever auditioned those speakers before? if not you should. they are not what you think.

 

[adwilk]

i am on a wicked tight budget, and those speakers are not trash, i own a pair of them. they are pretty good for the money. they are clear mids and highs and have decent bass. ive auditioned a few expensive high end speakers before just for the fun of it. these sound amazingly good for the price. ive been using sony equipment off and on for a long time. they consistently manufacture good products. if you want trash, look at KLH speakers. biggest mistake ever lol. let me ask, have you ever auditioned those speakers before? if not you should. they are not what you think.

To be fair, I have heard the speakers in question and own a pair of the Behringers. NO COMPARISON. The Sony's are only good at making noise, the Behringers do a great job at reproduction on a budget.

 

[yepimonfire]

im not saying the behringer dont sound good, im saying the sony's don't sound bad at all, true they are not going to sound as good as any high-end speaker. but they are very decent sounding

 

[T2T]

im not saying the behringer dont sound good, im saying the sony's don't sound bad at all, true they are not going to sound as good as any high-end speaker. but they are very decent sounding

Here I sit, middle-aged, with what I consider to have not-too-bad hearing ... considering all of the times I've operated power tools, etc. without ear protection. However, the point of my post is - life is too short to have to live with "so-so" speakers. Spend as much as you can to get the best sound possible. You'll enjoy it.

 

[lsiberian]

im not saying the behringer dont sound good, im saying the sony's don't sound bad at all, true they are not going to sound as good as any high-end speaker. but they are very decent sounding

Listen to what is being written. You can do far better. I've heard those sony speakers and they certainly aren't trash. They are far better than Bose. Still a pair of Behringers is only 30 bucks more and will offer you far higher quality sound. Go with the Behringers anything less would be silly.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/321847-REG/Behringer_B2030P_B2030P_2_Way_Passive.html

 

[yepimonfire]

i appreciate the recommendations, but i really do not want a bookshelf speaker because im building a floor-standing system, eventually i will get something good like EMPtek (got my eye on those) but for now i have to make do with a extra tight budget. and anything is better then bose, god i swear they are AWFUL. i see people ask for recommendations and people are like BOSE BOSE BOSE BOSE!!!!!!!!! i just want to hit them in the head with an extra-heavy bass guitar. i also want to stay in the same product line because i want sonically consistent sound, if i have a bunch of completly different speakers with different driver materials etc i will have an issue because i use to have a system that had KEF fronts, KLH surrounds(exceedingly terrible company), and a KEF subwoofer. since i am using the system for music i want to keep in the same product line. i currently am using SS-F5000's as fronts, eventually they will be used as surrounds once i can make a descision. if i have behringers being used as surrounds, i will deffinitly hear a sonic inconsistency and i dont want that. plus that still leaves me with the issue of up-sizing my front towers. im not knocking what your saying about the behringers, im sure they are better sounding, but arent applicable in my situation. if you know of a better pair of floor-standers for around 250 max, feel free to recommend them, but like i said, i need floorstanders. if i had known about the behringers awhile ago before i started building my system i would have just bought 6 of them and forgotten the sony's. that 8.75" driver looks sleek, thats a damn big woofer for bookshelfs. also im not sure if my amp could handle them, they are 4ohms my amp is rated for 8 and there is no switch to select a different imp., haha that would be a big electric bill at a totall of 1200 watts considering i listen on average 3 hours a day (if the amp could even supply that).

i really am not trying to come of as a know-it-all or as someone who is too hard-headed to listen. im just looking for an answer to my original question, would dual 6.5" drivers put out deeper richer bass then a single 8" woofer

 

[jamie2112]

All you really need to do is worry about your fronts and center speaker being the same unless you are listening to 7.1 music.The Behringers can be used with stands and they sound much better than the sony's.Do what you will but we are just trying to get the BEST sound in your budget.The surrounds are mostly for effects in movies and will not affect the front soundstage.

 

[yepimonfire]

i just said im using it for 7.1 music

 

[3db]

Poor bed side manners from some of the seasoned members here really detracts new people from joining this forum. New members are always encouraged to join but if veterans engage their mouth before engaging their brain, shooting down another's person choice with no reasons given, then this will discourage new members from joining in or heeding their advice no matter how knowledgeable the veterans may be. . Just a thought.

 

[AVRat]

Well, if you believe the specs, the 6000s play a little deeper.

 

[yepimonfire]

yea, well i also know their is a physical limit when it comes to driver sizes, technically speaking, a 6.5 inch drivers lowest extension is around 60hz where as an 8" stops at 40hz, im just wondering if anyone here has experience with dual 6.5 inch drivers or similar size, vs. single larger woofers that you might find in large bookshelfs, and if they make any difference.

IMO, 6" woofers are best suited for 2-way bookshelfs because they can handle midrange and bass, i wouldn't normally consider them for use as a main bass woofer in a 3-way speaker. i have a pair of 6.5 inch bookshelfs and the bass response is ok, for a bookshelf, but less then what i would expect from a tower. but ive never had the chance to listen to dual woofers so idk if they can increase the low extension effectively.

 

[3db]

yea, well i also know their is a physical limit when it comes to driver sizes, technically speaking, a 6.5 inch drivers lowest extension is around 60hz where as an 8" stops at 40hz, im just wondering if anyone here has experience with dual 6.5 inch drivers or similar size, vs. single larger woofers that you might find in large bookshelfs, and if they make any difference.

IMO, 6" woofers are best suited for 2-way bookshelfs because they can handle midrange and bass, i wouldn't normally consider them for use as a main bass woofer in a 3-way speaker.

Like you say, it all depends on how the speaker is configured. My PSB Image T45s are 3db down at 35 Hz..this from a speaker system containing two 5.25" drivers in a ported tower configuration.

 

[yepimonfire]

thats impressive for 5.25" drivers, i guess that answers my question, it does increase the extension.

 

[JerryLove]

Assuming the drivers are within 1/2 wavelength of their shortest fq., they are functionally a single driver, and what we need to look at is surface area.

6.5" = 3.25in*3.25in*Pi = 10.6*Pi in^2
x2 drivers = 21.2 in^2

8" = 4in * 4in * Pi = 16*Pi in^2

So the dual 6.5" has more surface area and should, all else being equal, be the better LF driver.

Of course, the reality is there's a *lot* more to account for.

 

[yepimonfire]

i see........