RXV-2400 Yamaha

[Marco]

HELP!!!!! Does anybody owns a Yamaha RCV-2400 This is my story:

I bought a receiver, Yamaha RXV-2400, 2 weeks ago and set it up with Bose Acoustimass 15 II speakers. For some reason, I have not been able to equalize it correctly even though I have ran the auto set up a number of times. I don like the way my subwoofer sounds and I don not feel that the whole thing is running with harmony.

1. My room size is 4 meters (12 feet) x 5 meters (15 feet) and it is supposed to be a medium size room. Is it?


Size: I am using one of the speakers as CENTRAL, 2 frontals and 2 surround. As you know, they are connected to the subwoofer and subsequently to the back panel of the receiver. Are all my speakers LARGE? That’s what the receiver shows and also what my Bose manual says. I don not know if the whole thing changes because of the way the Bose system works. Is this what you call dedicated subwoofer?


YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer): Flat?


Level: should I adjust manually? The distance shown on my receiver of the sub woofer is higher than the correct one, and when I run the test I can barely hear the sub woofer, maybe that is one of the reasons the receiver “thinks” the woofer is further than the real distance.

regards

 

[JAS]

Turn the subwoofer setting to off on your receiver.

 

[Mudcat]

Your main problem is what you are calling speakers. B00ze acoustomassticplastic III, IV, V or whatever do not have the right to be driven by a Yamaha or anyother amp/receiver you will read about in this thread.

Your sub (if it is a real sub and not another burp I mean booze) will have the crossover setting anywhere from 40 Hz up to maybe 160 Hz. Those roach traps your using will not cover the remaing audio band. There is a thread down it the Steam Vent on Bose (there, I said/wrote it). I suggest you check it out. The problem is not the Yamaha but the teenie weenie itty bitty plastic cubes.

Sorry If I sound mean here, but we love it when some comes in and admits they have boo$e.

 

[Yamahaluver]

Fully agree with Mudcat, please get better speakers to fully utilize the potential of your RXV-2400. Paradigm, Yamaha NS-555/777, Axiom etc. would be really nice compliment.

 

[Mudcat]

http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

Here's the link

http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

 

[LeadTrac]

I am afraid I have to agree with the others. I also have the Yamaha 2400 and my room is approximately the same size as yours. I have JBL speakers and my system simply fills my entire room with beautiful well balanced sound. You might also try setting up your system manually.

I hope this helps

 

[rgriffin25]

Your main problem is what you are calling speakers. B00ze acoustomassticplastic III, IV, V or whatever do not have the right to be driven by a Yamaha or anyother amp/receiver you will read about in this thread.

Your sub (if it is a real sub and not another burp I mean booze) will have the crossover setting anywhere from 40 Hz up to maybe 160 Hz. Those roach traps your using will not cover the remaing audio band. There is a thread down it the Steam Vent on Bose (there, I said/wrote it). I suggest you check it out. The problem is not the Yamaha but the teenie weenie itty bitty plastic cubes.

Sorry If I sound mean here, but we love it when some comes in and admits they have boo$e.

I realize that you and many others out there do not like BOSE products. For what ever reason Marco bought the Bose speakers is irrelevant at this time. I believe he was asking for advice with his yamaha receiver not a critque on his speakers.

 

[zipper]

Perhaps,since the Boses' send sound in all different directions,the auto setup is getting confused.I guess you'll have to do it yourself.

 

[Rÿche 1]

I realize that you and many others out there do not like BOSE products. For what ever reason Marco bought the Bose speakers is irrelevant at this time. I believe he was asking for advice with his yamaha receiver not a critque on his speakers.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, while reading the thread.

 

[Unregistered]

I did offer advice. I told him he should try setting up his system manually.

 

[LeadTrac]

I did offer advice. I told him he should try setting up his system manually.

 

[zyepod]

RX-V2400/Bose Speakers

I've never owned Bose speakers before so I might be way off here... If you can, connect the satellites directly to the receiver and use the sub out on the receiver for your Bose Sub. Run the Auto set-up. If it sets the speakers up wrong (like setting to large speakers) just change them to small manually. Sometimes it takes you a while to get things right because familuarity problems so be patient. Also be sure to have your volume on your sub set no more than half way when doing the auto set-up. If the 2400 is like my 1400 it won't like the volume high for the set-up. However after the set-up you can do what you want with it. If this don't work you'll have to set it all up manually...

 

[dontsleep]

Im sorry before I say it ok?
But expecting your system to sound good with speakers that have specs like this?
Will be kinda hard.

SATELLITES BASS MODULE
Frequency Response 280 Hz to 13.3k Hz at ±10.5 dB 46Hz to 202Hz at ±2.3 dB
Sensitivity (SPL at 1 meter)* 85.1 dB N/A
Impedance (minimum/nominal) 5.3/8 ohms N/A
Bass Limits (-3/-6 dB) 280/220 Hz 46/40 Hz

* measured with 2.8 volts of pink-noise input

 

[Mudcat]

I've been a way for a few days, while this thread gained some exposure. I'll also ofer my apologies to Marco.

However, the problem is his speakers.

He will not be able to set up his system properly using the auto or manual features of the RX-V2400. Yes, he will be able to effect some control over the sound at higher frequencies up to about 10K-12KHz. But the paramatric equalizer built into the Yamaha (when using the Yamaha mic) will not do what it is suppose to do when there are huge dead zones in the speakers output. Not to mention that there is probably no clearly defined axis after a couple of inches from the cube itself.

The Yamaha system attemps to equalize the response from the speakers. With these dead zones, and with the speakers conected to the "sub" it will not work.

First, connect the speakers to the receiver - not the sub.
Second, connect the "sub" to the B speakers jacks on the receiver.
Third, in the Yamaha set up, choose "NO SUB", and set speakers to Large.
Fourth, Try it again. (Probably still will not work.)
Fifth, Take what you have back and get better speakers.

 

[Unregistered]

while I agree that your speakers are the problem (got ridd of my bose)

here is what I did when I had them:

hook them up as indicated speakers to acoustimass (this is not a sub) but a woofer only. and hook up the accoust to the receiver. set speakers to large and sub off. the tricky part was the settin on the accoust and the postion. I found it less boomy when it was horizontal with the wall not facing into the room. The LFE then I had to play with the accoust settings LFE and volume for hours before it sounded just ok. But it's hard to set up your receiver with out proper specs. Good luck

 

[Marco]

Wow!!!

Thank you all for your comments and sugestions. I friend of mine stopped by my house and help me with my problem.
As a matter of fact I did not know that Bose was that bad, it is a famous brand around here (Costa Rica). Problem is, I already paid $1,000 for them and I am going to have to keep them for a while.

I don not know if it is possible to connect the speakers to the receiver, but we changed the configuration and did a manual set up and the whole scenario changed dramatically. I am enjoying my new equipment, eventhough my speaker specs do not meet my receiver´s output. I am going to experiment more, but in the mean time, thank you again. MARCO

 

[Rex]

I've been a way for a few days, while this thread gained some exposure. I'll also ofer my apologies to Marco.


First, connect the speakers to the receiver - not the sub.
Second, connect the "sub" to the B speakers jacks on the receiver.
Third, in the Yamaha set up, choose "NO SUB", and set speakers to Large.
Fourth, Try it again. (Probably still will not work.)
Fifth, Take what you have back and get better speakers.

Mudcat, appreciate your candid commentary. I have the Yammie 1400 with 10 year old Infinity TS Sterling Satellites with a passive sub of the same brand. I admit that it doesnt flatter me with great sound as I need to upgrade my speakers. I have my fronts connected to the sub, so you think that it would sound better connecting the sub to speaker B?

 

[Mudcat]

A passive sub will have to be connected to the B speaker connectors. The "sub out" is a line level connection. I'm reasonably confident that the B&$# sub does not have a line level input. (However, I work 150 feet from a BB, I'll check at lunch and modify this response as necessary.)

 

[Rex]

A passive sub will have to be connected to the B speaker connectors. The "sub out" is a line level connection. I'm reasonably confident that the B&$# sub does not have a line level input. (However, I work 150 feet from a BB, I'll check at lunch and modify this response as necessary.)

It seems to work ok, but I did hear(since I havent tried it) that hooking up to the B speakers enable the "On" all the time. NOt sure what that means though.

 

[Audioholics]

Second, connect the "sub" to the B speakers jacks on the receiver.
Third, in the Yamaha set up, choose "NO SUB", and set speakers to Large.

The Acoustimass module does not have a crossover setting. (At least I dont believe it does) Because of this you would be sending full range signal to the "sub" if you use this method. Big time distortion and not the best method in my opinion.

My advice would be to utilize the speakers the way they were designed for the best possble performance. Full range "Large" output on all speakers to the acoustimass module and subwoofer set to "No". The Acoustimass will cross over the speakers and send appropriate signal to the satellites.

Using Room EQ will probabaly result in a significant gain of +6db in the dead zones, so you might want to just skip that with this system. Room EQ is, afterall, meant to fix room anamalies, not compensate for non-linear frequency response in speakers.

And I won't criticize your speakers, but I will tell you that Bose have an above-average resale value - especially before they release a new "model" iteration.