Russia - Ukraine

[jhaider]

It is astonishing that the Durham probe has not received any attention in non Fox media. If the probe uncovers and proves what looks like happened, this will be much bigger than Watergate. Yet hardly a mention and the White House, won't go there after being asked specifically about it.

It's not getting any attention because it's just more flood-the-zone-with-bullshit propaganda in the Russo-Soviet style, fed by hangers-on from the old monster's administration.

Here's what an actually competent attorney and national security analyst who's been following the machinations closely has to say about the charade:

John Durham Chose to Meet with John Ratcliffe Rather than Witnesses Necessary to His Investigation - emptywheel

A Fox News piece trying to rebut mounting evidence that Durham failed to do basic investigative work and has bullied witnesses reveals that John Ratcliffe -- who had a key role in burning sensitive intelligence in pursuit of a conspiracy theory -- has been interviewed by Durham's team repeatedly.

www.emptywheel.net

 

[SithZedi]

It's not getting any attention because it's just more flood-the-zone-with-bullshit propaganda in the Russo-Soviet style, fed by hangers-on from the old monster's administration.

Here's what an actually competent attorney and national security analyst who's been following the machinations closely has to say about the charade:

John Durham Chose to Meet with John Ratcliffe Rather than Witnesses Necessary to His Investigation - emptywheel

A Fox News piece trying to rebut mounting evidence that Durham failed to do basic investigative work and has bullied witnesses reveals that John Ratcliffe -- who had a key role in burning sensitive intelligence in pursuit of a conspiracy theory -- has been interviewed by Durham's team repeatedly.

www.emptywheel.net

Hell, Wheeler could be right and the Durham investigations could prove to be another flood the zone with BS to distract us from other pressing issues. Durham has taken too long and was running out of time. And time will tell.

Early on in the dossier fiasco, Wheeler was correct to point out how potentially explosive it was that supporters of Hillary paid Fusion GPS to hire Steele who in turn paid money to Russian intelligence for the dossier.

If she's right again, and Durham proves to be a flop, it will just be another example of the futility of the pointing out of bad behaviour in DC of the elites coming to nothing. The Media will just move us to the next shiny object to distract us...

 

[highfigh]

Biden is fine. Why Lester Holt or any other talking head thinks the President (whomever that is) can control inflation is beyond me.

Biden is not fine.

That's not the point- POTUS should answer the effing questions asked, but his handlers have him on a two hour/day work schedule.

 

[Mikado463]

Biden is fine.

LMAO !!

 

[MaxInValrico]

Biden is not fine.

Sure he is.

That's not the point- POTUS should answer the effing questions asked, but his handlers have him on a two hour/day work schedule.

Uh no. You're not entitled, yet you certainly seem to think you are. What schedule do your handlers have you on?

 

[MaxInValrico]

Hell, Wheeler could be right and the Durham investigations could prove to be another flood the zone with BS to distract us from other pressing issues. Durham has taken too long and was running out of time. And time will tell.

Early on in the dossier fiasco, Wheeler was correct to point out how potentially explosive it was that supporters of Hillary paid Fusion GPS to hire Steele who in turn paid money to Russian intelligence for the dossier.

If she's right again, and Durham proves to be a flop, it will just be another example of the futility of the pointing out of bad behaviour in DC of the elites coming to nothing. The Media will just move us to the next shiny object to distract us...

Wrong. Rubio supporter Paul Singer paid for the Fusion GPS dossier. And for the record, what parts of that dossier have been proven incorrect?

 

[SithZedi]

Wrong. Rubio supporter Paul Singer paid for the Fusion GPS dossier. And for the record, what parts of that dossier have been proven incorrect?

I'll even use Wiki as a reference.

Opinion | How Did So Much of the Media Get the Steele Dossier So Wrong? (Published 2021)

Many journalists were too eager to prove what they thought they already knew about Trump.

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | How Did So Much of the Media Get the Steele Dossier So Wrong? (Published 2021)

Many journalists were too eager to prove what they thought they already knew about Trump.

www.nytimes.com

Steele dossier - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[John Parks]

Parrots at the msm...

 

[GO-NAD!]

Interesting read.
With invasion threat in limbo, the West asks itself again: What does Putin want with Ukraine? | CBC News

Excerpts:

Over the past several months, NATO has seen Russia move troops and equipment into the region, move them out while leaving their equipment behind — then move them back in just as quickly.

"So the movement of forces, the movement of Russian capabilities doesn't represent real de-escalation, but we will monitor, we will follow what they are doing," Stoltenberg said.

President of Finland Sauli Niinisto recently sat for an interview with the New York Times about his enduring dialogue with Vladimir Putin. He told the Times he noted a change in the Russian president's "state of mind, decisiveness" during a recent long conversation. He said he believed Putin felt he had to seize on "the momentum he has now."

Haunted by the Soviet Union's fall
That sort of nuance is missing from the political and diplomatic calculus of the West, said veteran Canadian diplomat Colin Robertson.

"It comes down to Putin because he has a view of history that sees the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century being the dissolution of the Soviet Union," said Robertson, a vice-president at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.

"And I think, before he leaves, he's determined to restore as much of that as he can. He's in his late 60s now and I think he's determined to do it before he leaves — bring Ukraine back into Russia by force, if necessary, preferably by bluff."

Russia's parliament, the Duma, attempted to further dismantle Ukraine on Tuesday by voting in favour of a motion calling on Putin to recognize as independent republics the breakaway regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, where Russian proxy forces have been fighting Ukrainian soldiers.

Ukraine's Foreign Ministry responded sharply, saying that if Putin supports the resolution, "it will have much broader, destructive consequences for the international rule of law" and global security.

Does anyone actually believe that the Duma says or does anything that hasn't been pre-approved or directed by the Kremlin?

 

[3db]

Interesting read.
With invasion threat in limbo, the West asks itself again: What does Putin want with Ukraine? | CBC News

Excerpts:





Does anyone actually believe that the Duma says or does anything that hasn't been pre-approved or directed by the Kremlin?

The Ukraine has access to the Mediteranian Sea and the quickest access into the Atlantic. Thats why he wants it. He's a.so trying to prevent a Western version of Cuba from forming next door.

 

[MaxInValrico]

I'll even use Wiki as a reference.

Opinion | How Did So Much of the Media Get the Steele Dossier So Wrong? (Published 2021)

Many journalists were too eager to prove what they thought they already knew about Trump.

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | How Did So Much of the Media Get the Steele Dossier So Wrong? (Published 2021)

Many journalists were too eager to prove what they thought they already knew about Trump.

www.nytimes.com

Steele dossier - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Cmon, that's trash.

 

[MaxInValrico]

The Ukraine has access to the Mediteranian Sea and the quickest access into the Atlantic. Thats why he wants it. He's a.so trying to prevent a Western version of Cuba from forming next door.

Ukraine has access to the Black Sea which is why Putin took Crimea and why he's been sucking up to Turkey.

 

[3db]

Ukraine has access to the Black Sea which is why Putin took Crimea and why he's been sucking up to Turkey.

I knew it was one of the seas but it is one of the reasons why he wants Ukraine back

 

[SithZedi]

Cmon, that's trash.

Wiki has its uses so wouldn't call it trash but what about the NY Times? The "newspaper of record"? is that disagreeable too?.

 

[jhaider]

Wrong. Rubio supporter Paul Singer paid for the Fusion GPS dossier. And for the record, what parts of that dossier have been proven incorrect?

Everyone should keep in mind that these two things can be simultaneously true:

1) The orange ogre was, if not necessarily a "Russian agent" in the formal sense, a Russian quisling with his balls firmly in Putin's grip. Remember how he cowered and simpered so when in the presence of the little thug? At minimum his businesses were conduits for Russian oligarch money laundering, per public statements made his brat son such as "we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." That at the very least left him open to blackmail.

2) Russian intelligence played both sides by selectively feeding information and salacious details that may or may not be true. Pee tape anyone? Who knows if it is a real thing, but the thought of it was a headline grabber for sure.

The Russians' game here is not control, but chaos sewn by (sometimes unwittingly) complicit unpatriotic grifters such as the faux gang and AM radio jocks. They know a frontal assault on the Western order will fail. But they have more trust their ability to steer chaos in the West to suit their interests. For a while at least (Brexit, the ogre) that novel strategy paid dividends. But I think starting with the French when they tried to “Wikileaks” Macron the West has started to develop countermeasures to these attacks.

 

[highfigh]

Sure he is.



Uh no. You're not entitled, yet you certainly seem to think you are. What schedule do your handlers have you on?

Bite me.

 

[SithZedi]

Everyone should keep in mind that these two things can be simultaneously true:

1) The orange ogre was, if not necessarily a "Russian agent" in the formal sense, a Russian quisling with his balls firmly in Putin's grip. Remember how he cowered and simpered so when in the presence of the little thug? At minimum his businesses were conduits for Russian oligarch money laundering, per public statements made his brat son such as "we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia." That at the very least left him open to blackmail.

2) Russian intelligence played both sides by selectively feeding information and salacious details that may or may not be true. Pee tape anyone? Who knows if it is a real thing, but the thought of it was a headline grabber for sure.

The Russians' game here is not control, but chaos sewn by (sometimes unwittingly) complicit unpatriotic grifters such as the faux gang and AM radio jocks. They know a frontal assault on the Western order will fail. But they have more trust their ability to steer chaos in the West to suit their interests. For a while at least (Brexit, the ogre) that novel strategy paid dividends. But I think starting with the French when they tried to “Wikileaks” Macron the West has started to develop countermeasures to these attacks.

Operation chaos. That's definitely KGB style...Create problem then come forward with solutions.

 

[GO-NAD!]

This is....interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494325742582128657

 

[SithZedi]

This article is mainly a stab at the US media's journalistic standards but it is interesting NTL.
Who knows, maybe they'll invade tomorrow?

Another All-Time Media Faceplant

After the Biden administration and the press wrongly predicted a Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 16th, they kept compounding the error in spectacular fashion

taibbi.substack.com

 

[John Parks]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1493884806022713344