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C

Chuck with a truck

Audiophyte
Hey guys, so this is my first post here and I think might have a real challenge for ya! So here is the deal I have a pieced together stereo that consists of a brand new Denon AVR-s700w, 4 JBL component speakers, a 12 inch klipsch, and a 850w QSC amp (I dont know if it is important information but all the speakers are out of an old movie theater). I previously had this exact same set up on a cheapo Panasonic head unit and it sounded amazing until i burnt up the head unit. So I bought this Denon because I was told the reason my old one burnt up was because the stereo amped the sub signal and I added an amp on top of that... so I bought the Denon because I was told it is for a powered sub. Anyways, I hooked it all up and the sub is humming, you can faintly hear what should be playing but its mainly humming. So I did some research and read up on the ground loop problems so I bought the 3 prong to 2 prong adapter (I know its not the right way to solve it, i just wanted to see if it would fix the problem) and that didn't work. I tried changing the outlet it was plugged into, no dice. I have double and triple checked all the connections, and all the wire and there is nothing that I can tell is wrong. Any advice you could give me would be much appreciated!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Hey guys, so this is my first post here and I think might have a real challenge for ya! So here is the deal I have a pieced together stereo that consists of a brand new Denon AVR-s700w, 4 JBL component speakers, a 12 inch klipsch, and a 850w QSC amp (I dont know if it is important information but all the speakers are out of an old movie theater). I previously had this exact same set up on a cheapo Panasonic head unit and it sounded amazing until i burnt up the head unit. So I bought this Denon because I was told the reason my old one burnt up was because the stereo amped the sub signal and I added an amp on top of that... so I bought the Denon because I was told it is for a powered sub. Anyways, I hooked it all up and the sub is humming, you can faintly hear what should be playing but its mainly humming. So I did some research and read up on the ground loop problems so I bought the 3 prong to 2 prong adapter (I know its not the right way to solve it, i just wanted to see if it would fix the problem) and that didn't work. I tried changing the outlet it was plugged into, no dice. I have double and triple checked all the connections, and all the wire and there is nothing that I can tell is wrong. Any advice you could give me would be much appreciated!
What sub are we talking about?

What cable are you using to connect the sub to the Denon?

Does the sub hum if you disconnect the sub from the Denon and just have it plugged in, but no audio connections?
 
C

Chuck with a truck

Audiophyte
I don't know what the sub is, I can't find any model numbers or anything.
To connect it I used an "adapter" to go from the sub pre-out ( like an RCA) to just just bare wire that I got from RadioShack
No it does not hum when disconnected from the demon
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
I don't know what the sub is, I can't find any model numbers or anything.
To connect it I used an "adapter" to go from the sub pre-out ( like an RCA) to just just bare wire that I got from RadioShack
No it does not hum when disconnected from the demon
Well, you can not use bare wire. It needs to go RCA to RCA with screened cable. I suspect that sub may not be compatible, and you might need a new one.

What connections does your sub have on it? Posting a good photograph would be very helpful.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Seems like he might even have a passive sub!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Seems like he might even have a passive sub!
I was wondering that, but it plugs in to the AC. Since it came out of a cinema, I'm inclined to think it might have a balanced input, xlr or neutric or may be TRS.

That is why we need a picture. Since this is old pro gear the output from the Denon may be far too low.

It will be very hard to help this guy, since his knowledge base is so low.
 
WaynePflughaupt

WaynePflughaupt

Audioholic Samurai


Well, you can not use bare wire. It needs to go RCA to RCA with screened cable.
If the amp came out of a theater along with the rest of the gear, it’s possible it’s an installation-grade model. Many of those have no traditional RCA, XLR or TRS inputs, but instead use screw terminal lugs for straight-wire connections. However, it’s best to use spade lugs instead of wrapping bare wires around the terminals. If this is the type of amp the OP is dealing with, it’s possible he simply didn’t wire things right, or maybe he's trying to use speaker wire.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.

If the amp came out of a theater along with the rest of the gear, it’s possible it’s an installation-grade model. Many of those have no traditional RCA, XLR or TRS inputs, but instead use screw terminal lugs for straight-wire connections. However, it’s best to use spade lugs instead of wrapping bare wires around the terminals. If this is the type of amp the OP is dealing with, it’s possible he simply didn’t wire things right, or maybe he's trying to use speaker wire.


The OP seems to have lost interest and so it is all academic now and anybody's guess.

We have had a lot of Yahoos posting lately giving minimal information and are too stupid to help even with the best of intentions.
Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
 
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