Rules to live buy

[bigus]

If you want two channel ......... buy three way speakers.

You might not need a sub.

 

[lovinthehd]

To live "buy"? What makes a three-way speaker inherently better for two channel use?

 

[Bizarro_Stormy]

Rules to live by:

don't tug on Superman's cape
don't spit into the wind
don't pull the mask off the Lone Ranger
and don't mess around with Jim

 

[lovinthehd]

Rules to live by:

don't tug on Superman's cape
don't spit into the wind
don't pull the mask off the Lone Ranger
and don't mess around with Jim

LOL

 

[sterling shoote]

No way am I making or imposing any rules regarding how I limit my enjoyment of music and movies other than not buying any audio equipment on credit.

 

[herbu]

If you want two channel ......... buy three way speakers.

You might not need a sub.

Ah, Grasshopper... you have much to learn. Please start with the definition of "homonym".

 

[bigus]

Most people tend to buy 2 or 2-1/2 way speakers and use Subs for the low end. Yes in reality it is a 2.1 system. I've found subs are very hard to integrate well with 2 or 2-1/2 way speaker. A good 3 way speaker, like the days before subwoofers IMHO is the way to go for straight 2 channel.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Rule to live by:

 

[lovinthehd]

Rule to live by:

You haven't seen his Nordost cable thread?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

You haven't seen his Nordost cable thread?

Nope, saw the title of one of largest snake oil pushers and decided to stay away from

 

[lovinthehd]

Most people tend to buy 2 or 2-1/2 way speakers and use Subs for the low end. Yes in reality it is a 2.1 system. I've found subs are very hard to integrate well with 2 or 2-1/2 way speaker. A good 3 way speaker, like the days before subwoofers IMHO is the way to go for straight 2 channel.

What gear/method do you use to integrate? What problems do you find with your results after your attempts at integration?

 

[lovinthehd]

Nope, saw the title of one of largest snake oil pushers and decided to stay away from

There is that but his responses there are illustrative of your query as to the trolling/stupid thing....

 

[tyhjaarpa]

Most people tend to buy 2 or 2-1/2 way speakers and use Subs for the low end. Yes in reality it is a 2.1 system. I've found subs are very hard to integrate well with 2 or 2-1/2 way speaker. A good 3 way speaker, like the days before subwoofers IMHO is the way to go for straight 2 channel.

I have listened couple 2 way speaker systems with sub and they sound better than most of 3 way speakers I have heard. Integrating sub isn't that hard at all and when done right you can't even tell by sound that there is sub in the chain but when you take the sub out you can tell right away something is missing. I myself have 3 way speakers that have really good reviews and have won some credit as well, still I prefer them with sub even for stereo listening. Integrate your sub correctly and it will work with any speakers no matter what type it is.

 

[herbu]

A good 3 way speaker, like the days before subwoofers IMHO is the way to go for straight 2 channel.

If you would rather buy speakers than a car, this could be true.

 

[bigus]

What gear/method do you use to integrate? What problems do you find with your results after your attempts at integration?

This is for a 2.1 channel setup.
I find the integration between lows to midrange are hard to blend.
Compared to 3 way alone, the sound is more natural with a 3 way.
It's a little easier these days to integrate a sub with the phase alignment on some subs.
I have the Paradigm Seismic 110 with room correction and I still can't blend it with the mains properly. I have tried other subs and the same result.
I've tried to use various subs with several speakers namely my old B&W LM1's and Martin Logan Vista.
I've also tried it with my 3 way speakers.

The three ways on there own sound better IMHO.
Now true 2 channel.

 

[fuzz092888]

Subwoofers = life

 

[bigus]

Subwoofers = life

Bass is....
A good 3 way speaker will have bass down to a decent level.
Especially in the bass and kick drums.

 

[tyhjaarpa]

Bass is....
A good 3 way speaker will have bass down to a decent level.
Especially in the bass and kick drums.

For a decent level perhaps. But if you are after perfect sound for stereo listening you want a good sub to blend in. I myself was quite satisfied with my speakers without the sub, but when I got mine I don't want to part from it. Actually I have a plan to buy second sub when my wallet allows.

 

[markw]

A three way speaker may well have bass down to a certain level but not the bass extention that a good sub can bring to the party.

As for blending a sub with mains, it takes a little time and patience. But, I've done this with 2 way, not three way, speakers. Somehow, I seem to love 6 1/2" drivers. They go low enough to play standalone and still satisfy and the sub simply takes over where the mains fall off.

 

[herbu]

A good 3 way speaker will have bass down to a decent level.

What are a couple examples of what you call "a good 3 way speaker"?
How much do they cost?
Is that what you have?