Results are in - Monster XP vs Sonocable

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tomd51

tomd51

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Great Scott!!

That was my first impression too:). Maybe this wire will allow me to travel through time as well. Just hook it up to your car stereo and hit a speed of 88 miles per hour:D:eek:
This will only work if you can supply the required 1.21 gigawatts of power... :D -TD

 
tomd51

tomd51

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Thank you, thank you... I'll be here all week... don't forget to tip your waitress.... :D -TD
 
wire

wire

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You want me to go buy wire so I can run a test for you? Sorry, I'm having a hard time surpressing the chuckle.
Ok
Enough said , its only opinion , thats all good , we are all entitled to our own assumputions . :p
 
3db

3db

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Signal into cable coming out unaltered = NO SOUND DIFFERENCE . Just need an oscilloscope or a spectrum analyzer to find out. If you do here differences, its your mind playing tricks. Its that easy. :D
 
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fmw

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Ok
Enough said , its only opinion , thats all good , we are all entitled to our own assumputions . :p
What is only opinion? I haven't provided a single opinion in this thread at all. I've provided some test results and explanations but no opinions.
 
Midcow2

Midcow2

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You need to get the Star-Trek model

That was my first impression too:). Maybe this wire will allow me to travel through time as well. Just hook it up to your car stereo and hit a speed of 88 miles per hour:D:eek:
You need to think bigger Like Einstein and go at Least 186,200 miles per second with the Star Trek model and then the warp speed flux factor really takes effect :D:D

I watched part of a weird Sci-Fi movie yesterday "The Langoliers" a time-warp through the Aurora Borealis.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Ok
Enough said , its only opinion , thats all good , we are all entitled to our own assumputions . :p
Yes, indeed, but opinions and assumptions are not all equal; some are better or much better than others, remember that.:D
 
wire

wire

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What is only opinion? I haven't provided a single opinion in this thread at all. I've provided some test results and explanations but no opinions.
I thought you said earlier , you did no test results on XP . :eek:
So only opinions from you or Assumptions .
 
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fmw

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I thought you said earlier , you did no test results on XP . :eek:
So only opinions from you or Assumptions .
Not exactly. I've done many, many bias controlled tests on audio wire. I believe I told you up above that it is possible to make interconnect cables that will alter waveforms but I've never seen it done with speaker cables. Since no audible differences have ever been incovered with speaker cables in bias controlled tests, I don't need to test every wire to conclude that what you heard was bais and preceptual hearing and placebo effect, not an audible difference.
 
wire

wire

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Not exactly. I've done many, many bias controlled tests on audio wire. I believe I told you up above that it is possible to make interconnect cables that will alter waveforms but I've never seen it done with speaker cables. Since no audible differences have ever been incovered with speaker cables in bias controlled tests, I don't need to test every wire to conclude that what you heard was bais and preceptual hearing and placebo effect, not an audible difference.
Still
No XP , no nothing . Its only assumptions . I have tryed and found a difference , dont ask me how or why . I don't know , I thought like most here before , now i just know what i know .
 
zhimbo

zhimbo

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No XP , no nothing . Its only assumptions . I have tryed and found a difference , dont ask me how or why . I don't know , I thought like most here before , now i just know what i know .
But - do you know the results of prior blind testing experiments? Do you know that blind-testing consistently shows no difference, EVEN WHEN people swear there are large, noticeable differences beforehand?

These are not assumptions. That's simply the truth.

I wonder: If Bloodstriker comes back and says the Monster XP was indistinguishable from other wire(s) in blind-testing: Will your opinion change?
 
wire

wire

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But - do you know the results of prior blind testing experiments? Do you know that blind-testing consistently shows no difference, EVEN WHEN people swear there are large, noticeable differences beforehand?

These are not assumptions. That's simply the truth.

I wonder: If Bloodstriker comes back and says the Monster XP was indistinguishable from other wire(s) in blind-testing: Will your opinion change?
Its easy for you to say that without trying it yourself , all im saying if you did not test XP cable , why are repleying to this ?
Its really all assumputions and word of mouth , without trying it yourself .
Do you take everyones word on everything in life to be true ? Without experence on yourside ?
Take sometime to read my above posts . I really don't why this happened .
 
tomd51

tomd51

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I've used Monster XP for powering some mains in a bedroom setup in the past. I have since re-run complete wiring for the room as needed using standard Philips speaker wire (same gauge as Monster XP) from Home Depot as the Monster wiring was temporary. Oddly enough, I have noticed absolutely nothing different about the performance of the wiring change, though I really never expected there to be any difference.

I'm sure I could convince myself there is a difference, but honestly, I'd be kidding myself if I did. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but if both sets of wire were built to the same specs, neither were faulty and they were both relatively similar in run length, you'd have to have dog hearing to notice a difference... -TD
 
wire

wire

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I've used Monster XP for powering some mains in a bedroom setup in the past. I have since re-run complete wiring for the room as needed using standard Philips speaker wire (same gauge as Monster XP) from Home Depot as the Monster wiring was temporary. Oddly enough, I have noticed absolutely nothing different about the performance of the wiring change, though I really never expected there to be any difference.

I'm sure I could convince myself there is a difference, but honestly, I'd be kidding myself if I did. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but if both sets of wire were built to the same specs, neither were faulty and they were both relatively similar in run length, you'd have to have dog hearing to notice a difference... -TD
I can respect that , atleast you tried it .
 
zhimbo

zhimbo

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It appears you didn't understand my point.

You said, "I know what I know". Well, I know that people often DON'T know what they know, no matter how strongly they feel about it. Much experience - my own and others - confirms this.

In the case of speaker wires, it's clear that anything other than blind testing should not be trusted. This has been demonstrated repeatedly.
 
wire

wire

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It appears you didn't understand my point.

You said, "I know what I know". Well, I know that people often DON'T know what they know, no matter how strongly they feel about it. Much experience - my own and others - confirms this.

In the case of speaker wires, it's clear that anything other than blind testing should not be trusted. This has been demonstrated repeatedly.
I believe in experence over anything . Atleast he has tested the product and not taken the word by hearsay . That i can respect . The rest don't jive . I can't stand Human Politics of any nature , which includes rumours . :(
I guess thats my bottom line and point .
 
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