Requesting advice on new HT system

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twominute00

Audiophyte
I have a 10 x 20 minimum custom designed space allocated for my new home and would like any help (or professional contacts in the cinncinati/columbus Ohio area) regarding:

construction (sound absorbing, sound reflecting)
wiring considerations

speakers (7.1 or 9.1?) amps, preamps if needed, processing if not all-in-1
other devices: control (crestron), dvd player(s), etc

Please write your best low retail solution for 100k (excluding raw room construction but including room build ins plus equipment)

and send it to: twominute00 AT hotmail DOT com

or post it here if you'd like it reviewed by the members

thank you!

jay
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
Jay,

Did you say a 10x20 room with a $100,000 dollar budget? You'll find this forum will have trouble spending that kind of money for a setup in that size room. We're more about the truth in audio, and not having to spend that type of cash to get identical reproduction based on research as well as thousands of threads of communication/conversation. Tell us what equipment you've heard, what you like, and what you dislike. It appears you have a Denon 4802. Why not use it for your HT room, or consider the 5805 if the 4802 is for another room.
 
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jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Check out CEDIA and look for a custom installer in your area. But, make sure to check back here to make sure your installer isn't trying to sell you some overpriced stuff to raise his commission.
 
rikmeister

rikmeister

Audioholic
would you be willing to go to 107,000. you are just a little short for what i would

buy. if you could just go a little higher i think you could get what you want.
 
S

sdente

Audiophyte
New Theater Advice

I have recently gone through designing and building a high end home theater. Our budget was originally much higher than your proposal but we found that we could do it for much less than we had planned.

For design and acoustics I can recomend:
Rives Audio in Indiana they provide world class design and service for a reasonable price (actually it can't be beat for what you get from this quality of experts). Contact Richard at 800-959-6553. Their website is www.rivesaudio.com. Great information there.

I found that if you want really top end equipment, the used market is the best place to get it. Check audiogon.com. There is a broker of very high end equipment there that specializen in Wilson. Our experience with him has been excellent. His name is Chris Moon at www.HigherFi.com.

We are builders and have always done home automation and AV in house. I have collected alot of info over the years and would be happy to share what I can with you.

What we ended up with.

Wilson Speakers www.Wilsonaudio.com

Wilson Gran Slamms for the front three channels. The center channel is behind an acoustically transparent 20' screen.

Watt puppys for the four rear channels.
(if you have never heard these speakers, you should, they are in a class of their own).

Lexicon MC-12 Balanced for the processor

Krell amps all around

Two Krell Master Reference Subs (Awesome)

JVC DLA-QX1G http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/present/brochure/dlaqx1.pdf

for our projector.

All controlled with Questron.

Don't get sold on very expensive cables. Good ones are enough. the others are a waste of money. This is where the dealers can relly make high margins.

At retail our setup would be over $400,000. We did it for closer to your budget.

Good luck, let me know if i can be of more help.

Steve
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Wow...that setup sounds heavenly. Wilson, Krell, Lexicon...

At least you didn't get taken for the expensive cables thing. What, by chance, did you end up wiring your system with?
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
Wilson Gran Slamms for the front three channels. The center channel is behind an acoustically transparent 20' screen.
Watt puppys for the four rear channels.
(if you have never heard these speakers, you should, they are in a class of their own).

Lexicon MC-12 Balanced for the processor

Krell amps all around

Two Krell Master Reference Subs (Awesome)

JVC DLA-QX1G http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/present/brochure/dlaqx1.pdf
for our projector.

All controlled with Questron.

Don't get sold on very expensive cables. Good ones are enough. the others are a waste of money. This is where the dealers can really make high margins.

At retail our setup would be over $400,000. We did it for closer to your budget.
Steve,

A 187lb projector, 3 1200lb towers with 4 Watt Puppies :eek: , two Master Reference subs. How big is this room? And honestly, how did you score this equipment for ~$100,000? Audiogon? Those subs alone would kill a third of that budget - used! You must provide photos. :)
 
S

sdente

Audiophyte
New Theater Advice

Don't want to highjack this thread, but yes it is an incredible system. The cost of equipment is actually closer to $200,000 than Jay's 100,000 budget. The projector alone took almost 40% of the budget. My point is that when you get to the higher end equipment I have found the used market to be the place to shop. We have been able to aquire great equipment for around 30% to 40% of the cost of the same pieces new. My experience is that most equipment is worth less than half the day after you buy it. This takes time and work, but when building a new home with a custom theater you have time to shop while the home is being built. In our case it has taken about eight months to purchase the equipment. This is OK because the house is still about four months from being complete.

The theater area of the house is quite large. The main area is about 25' X 40'. Behind this area is an 8' X 12' equipment and projection room. Off to one side is a 7' X 10' kitchen and a small attached bathroom. It should be a great place to hang out. In the mean time we are setting it up and testing/experimenting in the dinning room of the current home.

As for cables. We are getting good results using using custom made quad shielded balanced XLR cables made with Canare cable. We made it ourselves so it costs less than $5 per foot. We are using a simple shielded 10awg speaker cable from the amps to the speakers. Sounds great.

Another point I wanted to make is that at this level the room will make as big a difference as any equipment you can buy. That is why I suggested he start with someone like Rives Audio.
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

Audioholic Ninja
Sounds awesome, and I'm glad that you didn't get caught up in the whole cable thing. I just wish I could afford something like that...perhaps someday.
 
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