Remodel creates multi zone/receiver issue

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Byrdman55

Audiophyte
We just completed our remodel and now I find I am confused about which receiver to purchase to best meet my needs. I'm hopeful someone with more experience can help guide me.

My situation:
I have new family room - this is our main listening area with TV.
Goal: be able to have 7.1 for movies but I am willing to sacrifice some of
the channels if the other zones are activated.

New patio ZONE 2
Goal: to listen to a different source than that being played in the family room. To listend here at the same time as the kids watch a movie if FR

Kitchen ZONE 3. Kitchen is adjacent to family room aka great room
Goal: I have installed to ceiling speakers so tv and music can be heard better here. Zone 3 can always have the same SOURCE as the family room.

My tv: an older 720 but I will upgrade a couple of years from now.
Speakers: I will be purchasing to best match the receiver I purchase


QUESTION:
What receiver do you think might best meet my multi-zone needs? My budget is around $1000 but I would like to keep it under that if possible.

I like the Denon line (3311 ci) but certainly would consder others.
Recently I looked at the Onkyo TX NR 2008 9.2 because it has two assignable channels whereas the Denon line (at my price point) only seems to have one.

I don't doubt the solution to my situation is simple...but I really don't have much experience at this. Any assistance that can be provided is appreciated!
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Fortunately, the solution IS simple and any receiver with a zone 2 capability will work. As far as which particular one would be best, that will be up to you and depend soley on what features, power, cost, etc you are looking for.

If you are OK with zone 2 and zone 3 playing the same source (but still independent of zone 1), then you need impedance matching volume controls before the speakers in zone 2 and zone 3. In-wall volume controls are nice because you can always mute one of the extra zones if no one is in that room to listen.

You effectively run zone 2 and zone 3 as a single zone being powered by the receiver's zone 2 speaker outputs by wiring the two pairs of speakers in parallel. You can do that by simply twisting the wires together or by buying a fancy in-wall plate that does that for you internally (it has 2 inputs just like a normal wall plate for two speakers but has 4 outputs because you are connecting 4 speakers). You must use impedance matching volume controls unless all speakers are 8 Ohm and the receiver is certified for 4 Ohm loads.

An alternative to using IM volume controls is to purchase a speaker selector but then you've got another box to put somewhere.

When using the receiver to power zone 2 (which in your case is really zone 2 and zone 3 acting as a single zone), zone 1 will be limited to 5.1. If the receiver also has zone 2 pre-outs (and many do), then you could retain 7.1 in the main zone and still have zone 2 by connecting an addtional amplifier (which could be another receiver) to the zone 2 pre-outs. The downside to that though, is turning on the amp and yet again - another box. There are ways around the hassle of having to turn on the zone 2 amp such as macros on a universal remote or if you're lucky you find a receiver that has a zone 2 trigger.
 
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Byrdman55

Audiophyte
MDS:
Thanks for the advice.

One little wrinkle though is that I actually would like to have different sources for Zones 2 and 3. i.e listen to music on the patio while wife listens to rv in the kitchen. Does your recommendation change?
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
I personally don't know of any receivers that support three zones.

You'd have to look at whole house music distribution systems from companies like Niles or Sonos.
 
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