regarding Denon PMA-110 amplifier review.

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Brian King

Audioholic Intern
A very thorough review for what seems to be a very well performing piece of gear. One issue has me confused. You point out legitimate and pretty important shortcomings. To wit: no sub woofer out, no pre amp out, no XLR input connections. Add a $3500 price tag and you say you "Gotta have it!"? You lost me there.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
That's not a "gotta have it!" feature! You just want an excuse to praise Yamaha! Again. :p
Nothing about his hobby is a "GOTTA HAVE". Nobody "gotta have" an integrated amp to begin with.

But since we're talking about 1st world problems and luxury items, why do some Integrated Amps that cost less have fancy pretty analog meters, yet a $3500 Integrated Amp doesn't have any? :D
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
He’s just making up for all the years of his Denon praise to even things up. :)
I still think Audyssey DEQ is great and Bass Management (Sub Output) in Pure Direct Mode is great. These are 2 features that other brands, including Yamaha, could learn from.

I think all these manufacturers could learn from one another if they weren't so stubborn.

So I think I am very fair in giving both praises and critiques where they are due.

But at the end of the day, we all gotta do what's best for us, and we know what's best for us. :D
 
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Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
I still think Audyssey DEQ is great and Bass Management (Sub Output) in Pure Direct Mode is great. These are 2 features that other brands, including Yamaha, could learn from.

I think all these manufacturers could learn from one another if they weren't so stubborn.

So I think I am very fair in giving both praises and critiques where they are due.
One major reason as to why I bought the RME ADI-2 DAC FS for my desktop system was their dynamic loudness that works very well for me. Unless Dirac implements something similar I won't buy it.

From the manual:

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Another legacy of HiFi amplifiers: there has not been a single one missing a feature called
Loudness. It tries to address the changes in frequency-dependent hearing sensitivity over differ-
ent volume levels. If one listens to music loud, then drops the level by at least 20 dB, sound los-
es punch and glitter. HiFi amps tried to fight this effect by adding more bass and treble the lower
the volume was set. Unfortunately that never worked as intended, and just became an additional
bass/treble booster. Reason: the manufacturer of the HiFi amp could not know what volume any
position of the volume knob equals at the customer’s home. Room size, room dampening and
efficiency of the used speakers are all unknown.

But the effect of loss in perceived sound exists (read about the Fletcher-Munson curves), and
can be easily reproduced with any serious gear by comparing normal volume and DIM state
(usually -20 dB). The ADI-2 DAC offers Loudness for the analog stereo outputs, and probably is
the first time that Loudness works as intended. The user can decide how much maximum gain
in Bass and Treble should occur at lower volume settings. The user also sets the Low Vol Ref-
erence, where maximum gain is achieved. After extensive tests a 20 dB range has been defined
as range for maximum gain to no gain while increasing volume. That seemed to be the perfect
definition of the range that needs to be addressed by Loudness.

Here is an example on how it works: the user’s typical lowest level listening volume is at -35 dB
at the unit. This value is now set by the user as Low Vol Ref in the Loudness menu. Then Bass
and Treble Gain can be set between 0 and +10 dB. Default is +7 dB for both. Increasing the
volume by turning the Volume knob causes the gain in Bass and Treble to be lowered smoothly
over a range of 20 dB. So when Volume is set to -15 dB, the music is not only quite loud, but
Loudness’ Bass and Treble are then at 0 dB gain. See chapter 31.6 for graphs.

No matter how sensitive the connected phones or speakers are, no matter how much increase
in Bass and Treble are desired – with the ADI-2 DAC one can finally adjust it to meet the per-
sonal hearing and taste. Loudness finally works as it should have worked from the start - anoth-
er unique feature in the ADI-2 DAC.

Note: Loudness works best in Auto Ref Level mode due to the seamless dBr scale of the vol-
ume control. Without Auto Ref Level active, manually changing the Ref Level will change the
volume without changing the VOLume value (dB). As Loudness is referenced to a 'Low Vol Ref'
setting it then might no longer work as intended, and needs the Low Vol Ref value to be adjust-
ed.
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