Thanks for the replies everyone.
Right now I'm leaning to the Marantz line. The 5002 has pre outs. It's good to know the Onkyo does as well. It sounds like I probably won't need to use that feature but at the same time I think it makes sense to have it should I need it.
adk highlander, as far as video processing I'm not sure the terms to use so I'll just let you know what I plan on using the system for. 50-70% music. I want SACD and DVD-A playback, for movies just regular DVDs for now, but definitely Blu Ray/HD-DVD in the future. Oh yeah, and eventually a record player. I know I'll need a phono preamp.
jostenmeat, I figured the speakers would have the greatest impact on sound but I haven't listened enough to know how much impact the amp has. I should be able to compare in the near future, as there is a dealer in my area that carries Monitor Audio, and they also carry Marantz, Denon, Pioneer Elite, and NAD. As for the sub, I figure I'll play it safe and go to a sub specialist like HSU or SVS.
And mike c, thanks for that link. The dark brown looks sweet. I'm undecided whether I want the dark brown or the cherry finish. Black finishes on a speaker kind of look dull to me, unless perhaps it's a nice clean piano black.