Ready for new HT system

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Zonker

Audiophyte
I am looking for a new HT system around $5K.

Currently, I have 32" Sony Trinitron, Sony 900ES reciever, and Bose Acoustimas cubes. http://www.central-investments.com/tv.JPG

Desired system:
TV: 60" Sony KDF60WF655 or Sony KDF-60XS955 (Don't need extra speakers, but 2nd HDMI plug would be nice). Prefer LCD to DLP because it will be above fireplace. Will angle it a bit.

Receiver: Yamaha RX-V1500

Speakers: Onkyo SKS-HT240 or keep Bose

I like Comcast over Direct TV because of local channels and DVR.

I am looking for a solid but not crazy system that has a big "wow" factor. I frequently have 10-15 people over to watch Ultimate Fighting Championships. Will this be a problem to those sitting on the floor in front of the set? What about cables and surge/clean power - are they still necessary?

Any comments, concerns, ideas, or suggestions?
 
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mfabien

Senior Audioholic
Above Fireplace?...15 guests sitting on the floor...looking up at this 60" screen?

Hope you plan to have someone who can provide neck massages after each such sessions.
 
mcwilson

mcwilson

Audioholic
I agree with the previous post about the 60" TV over a fireplace... You may want to consider moving your theatre to a different room (if possible), or just re-arranging the room you're in. And you won't find too many people around this forum who would recommend that you keep the bose speakers in a $5k HT system. In fact, prepare to get your chops busted for even considering that option. Things can get a bit harsh around here. ;-)

For the audioholics-recommended $5k system, check out:

http://www.audioholics.com/showcase/systemguide/5KRecommendedhometheater.php

sounds like your right on with the receiver. Don't know anything about the onkyo speaker system. I would think your speaker investment should be more than a few hundred dollars if you're spending $5k on the entire system. I would target maybe 20-25% of the system cost toward speakers, although there is not criteria for that.

Good luck.
 
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awesomebase

Audioholic
Positioning

I'll add my voice in and say that you're on target with the TV and receiver, but, as others mentioned, you don't want to have that TV above the fireplace. For one thing, it is an LCD and unless you have it tilted down slightly, it isn't going to look its best unless you are fack far enough to narrow the angle of view.
Aside from that, putting any kind of electronics above a fireplace is risky, not just in terms of potential for something having, but even for being covered by warranty. Most vendors clearly state a minimum distance from heat-generating devices in order for your warranty to be valid.
As far as budgeting goes, this is basically how I break it down myself. TV and DVD player = 50% of budget. Speakers, receiver, cables, and any A/V rack should equal 50% of budget. I imagine that I'll be kicked around for saying this , but I consider it a good measure for REAL-life home-theater to be well balanced.

For example... TV + stand + dvd player = $2500 + $300 + $200 = $3K
Speakers (F,C,S, and sub) + receiver + cables + rack =
$1600 ($500 + $300 + $400 + $400) + $600 + $400 + $400 = $3K

Even though your budget is $5K, my guess is that realistically you'll probably inch closer to $7K when you consider everything you want to do plus shipping + taxes + extra warranties, etc.

The reason why it is good to budget this "50/50" is that I've seen many people build Home Theaters spending so much money on the video and skimping on the audio. In effect, more emotion and realism is conveyed purely through the audio. In fact, you can have a pretty amazing experience watching a DVD on a regular 36" CRT with a very good surround sound system. Getting thick speaker cable (I made my own using high-end 24K gold-plated banana plugs and 3 x 12 gauge wire for each connection) along with a good reciever (Yamaha, Denon, HK, Pioneer Elite, Marantz), and a good set of speakers (Klipsch, Polk Audio, JBL) will truely make your home theater sound pretty amazing. Get a good subwoofer to go with it and a good audio cabinet and you'll be in business!! Remember too that visually, in a living/family room, you don't want a screen that is too big either so, if getting a 50" saves you $600 over a 55" or 60", it may be better to do. In the end, it is the entire environment that matters and having a well-balanced home theater with good quality components makes all the difference.
I had some Bose bookshelf speakers hooked up to a Sony receiver and it did a decent job. However, once I hooked up my Klipsch bookshelf speakers I noticed a SUBSTANTIAL difference in the experience. I can't wait to hook up my new receiver and get my sub in. Even without those, scenes really have impact now. Here is a good test... check out "The Incredibles" DVD. There is a scene where Mr. Incredible rips a moving pod off the tracks and hurls it at two guards (where it lands and literally crushes them and a gate they are guarding). Even with just the two reference Klipsch bookshelf speakers, that pod sounded like it landed in my lap and the first time I heard it (and actually a couple of times after) it made both me and my wife jump! I never got that with the Bose speakers. If you have the movie, take it with you to a Tweeter or Good Guys or good A/V store and test out that scene with different receivers and speakers... you'll see what I mean. There are also some good scenes to use from Matrics discs and the Jurassic Park series, but, plenty of people have used them already, time for something new! I hope you enjoy it, and remember, this should be a fun experience! Don't stress out too much about what you get or don't get, just enjoy the ride!
 
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