R.I.P Philip Seymour Hoffman

[herbu]

I think some people have an addictive personality. Nature or nurture, I don't know. But if you give 1000 people enough disposable money, some % of them will spend it on drugs/alcohol/etc. And some % of them will do so to the point of addiction. It is sad.

It is also sad that some people can eat doughnuts, watch movies and not gain an ounce... while others gain weight just thinking about it.

We all have our particular weaknesses and challenges. Some are more perilous than others.

 

[j_garcia]

I don't think it is an addictive personality, I think it is a lower ability to override the desire to stop. My brother tried to explain it to me - "You can stop whenever you want and its that simple. My brain and body not only won't stop, it actually tells me to keep going, even if I know its wrong." When you're hungry, you eat, and that's how that sort of person's brain interprets the impulse. They are actually wired differently and that is a scary thought.

 

[Alex2507]

Understanding addiction is hard enough for an addict. Trying to get a non addict to understand addiction is sometimes like trying to get a Canadian to understand what a joke is.

If you don't get it you should consider yourself lucky.

Go forth and be fruity.

 

[afterlife2]

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<figcaption style="width:630px;">Heavenly Sweetness / Dominique Charriau, Getty Images</figcaption></figure> A session saxophonist who’s played on records by David Bowie, Mick Jagger and others has reportedly been arrested in connection with the heroin-related death of actor Philip Seymour Hoffman.
According to the New York Post, Robert Vineberg was arrested in a Manhattan drug den last night along with three other suspected dealers. Allegedly, the actor, who died of an overdose over the weekend, had purchased heroin from the suspects a while back.
The New York Post notes that Vineberg records under the name Robert Aaron. According to his LinkedIn page, the New York City musician has played with Bowie (he’s listed on the credits of the ‘Let’s Dance’ album), Jagger (‘Goddess in the Doorway’), Blondie, Amy Winehouse and others. In 2010, he released a solo album called ‘Trouble Man.’
During a raid of three apartments last night, police reportedly found 350 envelopes containing what looked like heroin. While none of them had the Ace of Spades stamp found on the packets that were located near Hoffman’s body, a tip led police to the 57-year-old Vineberg and his associates.
After the arrest, Vinegerg was asked if he sold heroin to Hoffman. “No, I did not,” he replied.
The 46-year-old Hoffman, roundly credited as being one of the finest actors of his generation, was found Sunday morning, reportedly with a needle in his arm and more than 50 envelopes of heroin near his body. He relapsed a couple years ago after beating various addictions in his 20s. In addition to roles in ‘Moneyball,’ ‘The Big Lebowski’ and ‘Capote’ (for which he won an Oscar), Hoffman played music critic Lester Bangs in the 2000 movie ‘Almost Famous.’

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[j_garcia]

Street crackheads OD, nobody does anything. Mainstream, Oscar winning actor ODs: publicized arrest.

 

[herbu]

I don't think it is an addictive personality, I think it is a lower ability to override the desire to stop.

That sounds like a good definition of an addictive personality. We're saying the same thing.

 

[j_garcia]

That sounds like a good definition of an addictive personality. We're saying the same thing.

Yes and no, and I get what you mean; that would be the definition of a person prone to addiction. However, EVERYONE can become addicted to something, not everyone can simply stop by choice and actually DO it.

 

[GO-NAD!]

Understanding addiction is hard enough for an addict. Trying to get a non addict to understand addiction is sometimes like trying to get a Canadian to understand what a joke is.

If you don't get it you should consider yourself lucky.

Go forth and be fruity.

Must we tell you that we get the joke in order for you to understand that we get the joke?

 

[Ponzio]

Another view on PSH death.

Russell Brand: Philip Seymour Hoffman is another victim of extremely stupid drug laws | Comment is free | The Guardian

 

[Alex2507]

Must we tell you that we get the joke in order for you to understand that we get the joke?

Maybe ...

 

[j_garcia]

If you haven't seen Capote, see it.

I enjoyed his character in Pirate Radio too

All of his performances that I can recall were memorable. I guess it will be interesting to see what they do about the rest of Hunger Games movies since he is in Catching Fire and was slated to be in the rest of them.

 

[afterlife2]

I guess it will be interesting to see what they do about the rest of Hunger Games movies since he is in Catching Fire and was slated to be in the rest of them.

He finished the next one. It's just a trilogy right?

 

[j_garcia]

He finished Catching Fire, I don't think they've started shooting the third one, and I don't recall him being in the first one. Supposed to be trilogy, but looks like they will stretch the third into 2 movies (Hobbit anyone?)

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

No one condones heroin or other narcotics, but death by any cause is a tragedy to me.

 

[afterlife2]

He finished Catching Fire, I don't think they've started shooting the third one, and I don't recall him being in the first one. Supposed to be trilogy, but looks like they will stretch the third into 2 movies (Hobbit anyone?)

At the time of his death, Hoffman was filming The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2, the final The Hunger Games movie, and had already completed the majority of his scenes. In addition, he was also gearing up for his second directional effort, Ezekiel Moss, and had filmed a pilot for a series for called Happyish, which Showtime had picked up for a full season two weeks before his death.[SUP]-Via Wikipedia[/SUP]

 

[panteragstk]

Another view on PSH death.

Russell Brand: Philip Seymour Hoffman is another victim of extremely stupid drug laws | Comment is free | The Guardian

That article was pretty fantastic. I didn't know Russell Brand was that good of a writer.

 

[jinjuku]

Another view on PSH death.

Russell Brand: Philip Seymour Hoffman is another victim of extremely stupid drug laws | Comment is free | The Guardian

That article was pretty fantastic. I didn't know Russell Brand was that good of a writer.

Not sure what was so fantastic about the article. Getting clean isn't illegal. PSH could have gone to any # of private, well staffed, clinics. Started with Detox, then onto therapy for what ever ill's he had.

There may laws against use, but there is no law from keeping a user from getting clean.

 

[panteragstk]

The article itself isn't what I think is fantastic. It is the fact that I was under the impression that Russell Brand was functionally retarded, but clearly is able to speak pretty eloquently that was the surprise to me.

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[j_garcia]

The article itself isn't what I think is fantastic. It is the fact that I was under the impression that Russell Brand was functionally retarded, but clearly is able to speak pretty eloquently that was the surprise to me.

He's actually quite intelligent apparently, which is completely opposite of the characters he plays. I thought exactly the same thing when watching an interview with him for some movie like Forgetting Sarah Marshall or something like that.

 

[Ponzio]

He's done about 6 articles the last 2 years for The Guardian. He's cogent and quite a wordsmith.