Question about bi-wire and bi-amp

[mtrycrafts]

I would love to hear how a speaker wire can 'separate the highs from the lows'.

Interesting, me too Many years ago Monster said the same thing about their wires with different gauged strands, LOL, that the thin will pass the high frequency and the thick ones the low frequency. Someone suggested to a Monster sales guy to grab the thin wires plugged into the 120 V outlet and test his theory

 

[mtrycrafts]

The bass will be lot tighter and it wont sound so boomy.!

Maybe you can explain this? Curious minds want to know how and why this is.

 

[mulester7]

Maybe you can explain this? Curious minds want to know how and why this is.

......two elements are being paralleled, and they have seperate crossovers that apply only to them even if the two crossovers are on the same board with a single attachment.....they got to have seperate crossovers if you can bi-amp them, now think fire....and they GOT to have crossovers, if you run both top and bottom in any configuration, or they would be totally offensive after the point they should have been crossed.....the top and bottom have their own crossovers, would have to....and you can parallel that....one advantage of bi-amping might be make the top or bottom stronger or weaker....you can bi-wire them and do that with an L-pad mounted on the enclosure.....I'd go for 4 ohms, and have somebody pass me that platter of fresh watts.....

 

[mtrycrafts]

......two elements are being paralleled, and they have seperate crossovers that apply only to them even if the two crossovers are on the same board with a single attachment.....they got to have seperate crossovers if you can bi-amp them, now think fire....and they GOT to have crossovers, if you run both top and bottom in any configuration, or they would be totally offensive after the point they should have been crossed.....the top and bottom have their own crossovers, would have to....and you can parallel that....one advantage of bi-amping might be make the top or bottom stronger or weaker....you can bi-wire them and do that with an L-pad mounted on the enclosure.....I'd go for 4 ohms, and have somebody pass me that platter of fresh watts.....

Ahm, sorry, this doesn't explain my question to his claims.

There are two crossovers, or more, even when not buy-wired. Irrelevant issue.

 

[mulester7]

Ahm, sorry, this doesn't explain my question to his claims.

There are two crossovers, or more, even when not buy-wired. Irrelevant issue.

....I just picked your post to pop, Mtry....settle down and climb out that hole....(four).....

 

[mulester7]

He will here a difference when he bi_wire he speakers!
The bass will be lot tighter and it wont sound so boomy. it will seperate from the highs. and it will sound alot cleaner!

.....this is what DDigitalGuy said, and you start right in, Mtry....he said changing the speaker to 4 ohms brought cleanness and life to it....Mtry, can ya' hear me down there?....huh?....(five)......

 

[mtrycrafts]

.....this is what DDigitalGuy said, and you start right in, Mtry....he said changing the speaker to 4 ohms brought cleanness and life to it....Mtry, can ya' hear me down there?....huh?....(five)......

HUH???

The bass will be lot tighter and it wont sound so boomy.!

I know what he said and I asked about this from his post, to explain further. Perhaps he has an clear explanation about it, how and why? If not, then it is a guess perhaps. I like good, solid answers I can take to the bank.

 

[mulester7]

HUH???

The bass will be lot tighter and it wont sound so boomy.!

I know what he said and I asked about this from his post, to explain further. Perhaps he has an clear explanation about it, how and why? If not, then it is a guess perhaps. I like good, solid answers I can take to the bank.

.....how can an ears-issue be taken to the bank?....he obviously is not a village idiot....he posted what he heard....would blindfolds change what he heard?....the bass was cleaner is the reason.....

 

[brian32672]

.....how can an ears-issue be taken to the bank?....he obviously is not a village idiot....he posted what he heard....would blindfolds change what he heard?......

You both realize that between you both this is otiose.

 

[Buckle-meister]

Hey Mulester7, Mtrycrafts told me you kicked him in the shins and poked him in the eye just for, well, just for fun! Any truth to that?

Regards

 

[mulester7]

You both realize that between you both this is otiose.

....go fix your blown-out windows, haha.....you made me go to dictionary.com on otiose.....

 

[mulester7]

Hey Mulester7, Mtrycrafts told me you kicked him in the shins and poked him in the eye just for, well, just for fun! Any truth to that?

Regards

.....that would be the Gospel Truth, you ole' bagpipes totin'-plaid skirt wearer.....

 

[brian32672]

....go fix your blown-out windows, haha.....you made me go to dictionary.com on otiose.....

Hmm, how obtuse of you.....

Hey Mulester7, Mtrycrafts told me you kicked him in the shins and poked him in the eye just for, well, just for fun! Any truth to that?

Regards

Funny, LOL. If he agrees to it, I will attest to it. J/K

 

[mtrycrafts]

Funny, LOL. If he agrees to it, I will attest to it. J/K

In that case, he did.

 

[mtrycrafts]

.....how can an ears-issue be taken to the bank?....he obviously is not a village idiot....he posted what he heard....would blindfolds change what he heard?....the bass was cleaner is the reason.....

So, in the end, he cannot shed more light on the issue of buy-wiring, other than what he thinks he perceived. For a moment, I thought there was a breakthrough in the science of buy-wiring. No, there is nothing to take to the bank, as my psychic ability foretold. So, you see, I am a psychic.

 

[mulester7]

So, in the end, he cannot shed more light on the issue of bi-wiring, other than what he thinks he perceived. For a moment, I thought there was a breakthrough in the science of bi-wiring. No, there is nothing to take to the bank, as my psychic ability foretold. So, you see, I am a psychic.

.....Mtry, keep your day job, and what he did, was take a 2-way "8 ohm" full-range speaker, and change it to a 2-way "4 ohm" full-range speaker....the amp section pushing the speaker is now firing 4 ohm bullets.....

 

[mtrycrafts]

.....Mtry, keep your day job, and what he did, was take a 2-way "8 ohm" full-range speaker, and change it to a 2-way "4 ohm" full-range speaker....the amp section pushing the speaker is now firing 4 ohm bullets.....

Not if he buy-wired them with the same amps he didn't.

By the way, how do you know the speaker became 4 ohms? Did someone use an impedance bridge and swept the frequency range to arrive at the impedance, checked some published impedance measurements of the speaker, or just a DC resistance measurement? Not the same.

 

[brian32672]

In that case, he did.

Glad to know, that you know, I was joking........

Not if he buy-wired them with the same amps he didn't.

No big deal Marty, but I was wondering why you keep using BUY instead of BI.
You have used it at least 10 times.
Bi-wiring, Buy-wiring

Unless, you mean he is Buying to much wire.

 

[mtrycrafts]

No big deal Marty, but I was wondering why you keep using BUY instead of BI.
You have used it at least 10 times.
Bi-wiring, Buy-wiring

Unless, you mean he is Buying to much wire.

That's easy. One buys the extra wire to bi-wire the system but it has no beneficial effect, hence, it is just a buy more wire thing Makes the wire companies richer a bit. Like Monster would need to be richer.

 

[MDS]

.....Mtry, keep your day job, and what he did, was take a 2-way "8 ohm" full-range speaker, and change it to a 2-way "4 ohm" full-range speaker....the amp section pushing the speaker is now firing 4 ohm bullets.....

So what? Is that supposed to be a good thing? Going from 8 ohms to 4 ohms makes the load harder to drive. The receiver now has to deliver twice as much current and twice as much power. It won't be any louder and it doesn't affect sound quality in any way. 100 watts into 8 ohms = 200 watts into 4 ohms = the same SPL.