Putting 2 Speakers On One Channel

[steven8579]

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to home audio. I have a Crown XLS 1002 Amp and 2 definitive audio BP9080x and 1 CP9080 center speaker. All 3 speakers have 8 ohm resistance. How would I be able to attach the 2 bp9080x speakers to one channel and the center speaker to the other channel? The speakers can be connected with speaker wire or with banana plugs. The amp has 2 speakon connectors. I have 3 speakon to speaker wire cables and 3 speakon to banana cables I also have a speakon splitter. Would I be able to use the splitter to connect it or would that cause my equipment to be damaged.

Thanks,
Steven

 

[lovinthehd]

Why on earth would you want to do that? I'd just hook up the L/R speakers. What other gear are you using these with?

 

[steven8579]

I have the one amp, 3 speakers and a presonus quantum 8 output audio interface. It’s being used for a Hauptwerk organ. The middle speaker is for some of the soft sounds for the organ.

 

[lovinthehd]

That's a unique setup, much different than a normal speaker/amp setup question we get around here (being mostly reproduction rather than production). It's still going to be somewhat unbalanced somewhat....but that amp can probably handle two on one channel wired in parallel, tho. This article seems to cover the basics https://soundcertified.com/how-to-connect-2-speakers-to-one-output/

 

[highfigh]

I have the one amp, 3 speakers and a presonus quantum 8 output audio interface. It’s being used for a Hauptwerk organ. The middle speaker is for some of the soft sounds for the organ.

Why are you trying to separate loud vs soft sounds when the main speakers will reproduce them easily?

FYI- you will definitely need to cut off some of the low end if you want any of your speakers to survive the bass pedals and even at moderate levels, you may notice what sounds like a room fan is in front of the speakers- that's modulation in the cone(s) caused by the bass notes coming through the same drivers that are producing midrange.

Home speakers aren't designed to be used for electronic keyboards- there's a huge difference between producing the sound and reproducing it.

 

[Kingnoob]

Why are you trying to separate loud vs soft sounds when the main speakers will reproduce them easily?


FYI- you will definitely need to cut off some of the low end if you want any of your speakers to survive the bass pedals and even at moderate levels, you may notice what sounds like a room fan is in front of the speakers- that's modulation in the cone(s) caused by the bass notes coming through the same drivers that are producing midrange.

Home speakers aren't designed to be used for electronic keyboards- there's a huge difference between producing the sound and reproducing it.

Yeah run them on a home audio receiver, all it takes is a small mishap and your speakers are cooked . Some people run subs on pro amps but I’m not sure how , def tech don’t need pro power .
I can’t even say how you hook regular speakers to pro amps. Special-cables ?

 

[highfigh]

Yeah run them on a home audio receiver, all it takes is a small mishap and your speakers are cooked . Some people run subs on pro amps but I’m not sure how , def tech don’t need pro power .
I can’t even say how you hook regular speakers to pro amps. Special-cables ?

It's far worse when pro audio equipment is used- it's not about pro power, it's about the pro audio source's signal, which is very different from what comes from a typical audio device. Anyone who has plugged an electric guitar into the mic input of a stereo with one or a tape deck knows that it doesn't sound anything like an electric guitar plugged into a guitar amp- this is because a guitar amp doesn't need flat frequency response or 20-20KHz response and most of a guitar's sound is between >100HZ and >5KHz, if even that wide of a response range.

Depending on the pro amp, it might have binding posts, 1/4" jacks or SpeakOn jacks, which can also be used with 1/4" jacks. Commercial amplifiers often have Euro-style connections, also known as Phoenix Connectors because the pro/commercial equipment integration industry doesn't give a rat's butt about fancy cable BS, unicorns and stories about how special the cables are, even when someone who's well-known says they deliver chocolaty midrange.

 

[lovinthehd]

It's far worse when pro audio equipment is used- it's not about pro power, it's about the pro audio source's signal, which is very different from what comes from a typical audio device. Anyone who has plugged an electric guitar into the mic input of a stereo with one or a tape deck knows that it doesn't sound anything like an electric guitar plugged into a guitar amp- this is because a guitar amp doesn't need flat frequency response or 20-20KHz response and most of a guitar's sound is between >100HZ and >5KHz, if even that wide of a response range.

Depending on the pro amp, it might have binding posts, 1/4" jacks or SpeakOn jacks, which can also be used with 1/4" jacks. Commercial amplifiers often have Euro-style connections, also known as Phoenix Connectors because the pro/commercial equipment integration industry doesn't give a rat's butt about fancy cable BS, unicorns and stories about how special the cables are, even when someone who's well-known says they deliver chocolaty midrange.

FWIW this particular amp has XLR, 1/4", and rca inputs and for output both speaker binding posts and speakon.

 

[steven8579]

Why are you trying to separate loud vs soft sounds when the main speakers will reproduce them easily?

FYI- you will definitely need to cut off some of the low end if you want any of your speakers to survive the bass pedals and even at moderate levels, you may notice what sounds like a room fan is in front of the speakers- that's modulation in the cone(s) caused by the bass notes coming through the same drivers that are producing midrange.

Home speakers aren't designed to be used for electronic keyboards- there's a huge difference between producing the sound and reproducing it.

This is not an electric keyboard. The program is run on the computer and the computer sends the signal to the audio equipment to produce a sound. The organ console is just a midi controller. The speakers would be producing the sound not reproducing it.

 

[lovinthehd]

I'd still just hook up the two main speakers, one on each channel....but can imagine even the way you're producing audio an accident could happen to damage the speakers....those particular speakers aren't particularly robust from the problems many report (altho that's usually their internal amps).

 

[steven8579]

They have a powered sub but the speakers themselves don’t have an amp

 

[lovinthehd]

More they have powered woofers than true subs....

 

[Kingnoob]

More they have powered woofers than true subs....

I just don’t see why these speakers would need a pro amp . They don’t need tons of watts. 350 rms could cook them easily , 212 at 8 ohms so go easy on the volume.

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The Golden ear also got built in subs but Are they true subs or same as def tech ? One pair was 12.5k+ inanely expensive can’t imagine affording those ever.

 

[TLS Guy]

Hi Everyone,

I'm new to home audio. I have a Crown XLS 1002 Amp and 2 definitive audio BP9080x and 1 CP9080 center speaker. All 3 speakers have 8 ohm resistance. How would I be able to attach the 2 bp9080x speakers to one channel and the center speaker to the other channel? The speakers can be connected with speaker wire or with banana plugs. The amp has 2 speakon connectors. I have 3 speakon to speaker wire cables and 3 speakon to banana cables I also have a speakon splitter. Would I be able to use the splitter to connect it or would that cause my equipment to be damaged.

Thanks,
Steven

As I understand it Hauptwerk organs require multiple amps and speakers for different divisions. Take a look at Richard McVeigh's YouTube BIS channel. He has a Hauptwerk organ in his home, this is his second one. He is organist at Romsey Abbey in Hampshire. He has many videos, and some explain the Hauptwerk set up.
Unless your organ is a little chamber organ, you definitely need multiple subs, or your speakers will soon be toast. Famous organists have come to his home and given recitals on it. They really do show the potential of these Hauptwerk instruments. Richard also gives recitals on pipe organs. One of the Hauptwerk organs he has purchased is Salisbury cathedral organ. He also has videos of him playing the actual organ and the assistant organist John Challenger playing the real organ.