polks or martins

[mailman23]

I just went to demo some polk rti8's, 10's and 12's today and like the 10's best.On my way out I decided to listen to the martin logan clarity b's.Wow those things sound great.But I am trying to decide if they are worth paying 3 times the amount of the polks.does anyone have any experience with martin logans.Are they worth it or should I check into some other speakers at 1500 each?

 

[Eric Apple]

I have ML's Aeons. I really like them a lot. Seems to be a love/hate kind of speaker, you really like them or you don't. Personally they are my favorite speaker. But, you need to have a subwoofer absolutly no question about it. There is just no low end on Aeons.

If your not giving up food or electricity to get them, if you like the MLs I say go for it. There's really no one who can tell you what to like. No one has ever debated the build quality or MLs rep. They are a quality speaker.

 

[j_garcia]

Probably anything at 3x the cost of the RTis are going to sound better (with the exception of Bose ). The real question is as Eric Apple said - what are you actually willing to spend?

 

[Johnny Canuck]

Dude. The Martins are 3 x the price? Why don't you buy them and if you change your mind, i will trade you my RTI 12's and I'll even throw in shipping costs!

You have to decide on what you want to spend. Of course a speaker 3 x the cost of another is going to blow it away. That's like saying, what's better, a Honda Civic or an Acura NSX? The Civic is a great car but the Acura will just be so much sweeter.

JC

 

[cynic-al]

polks rti12

I had a pair of RTi12s',and chose them over Logans,not because I could not have bought the Logans if I chose.I really liked the Polks,and in my home they sounded great.I perceived the bass to be very good.That was using 100wpc.I have since gone to LSi15s' with NAD c372 at 150wpc.They are even better,and have no less soundstage than the Logans I have heard,but to my ear a more natural tone.Yet my son who accompanied me on numerous auditions appreciated the Logans more,which to me really points out the subjective,personal nature of sound perception.I have heard nearly my share of speakers in 35 years of serious interest in hi-fi,beginning with my first pair,large Advents in '74'.After reading hundreds of owner/auditioner/professional reviews of speakers I have also heard,I am convinced absolutely that peoples ears/hearing is as varied as every other aspect of genealogy.That does not mean I reject that valid,scientifically measureable differences exist from one product to another.But at some point it really is a subjective choice,based on the myriad of human perceptions,and emotions including even ego as to which speaker/system one chooses and would recommend to others.If it sounds good to you,it is good!

 

[gcmarshall]

IMO,

the ML clarity's are great with some caveats. i think you have to be in a very narrow sweet spot in front of the speakers to get the most from their signature clarity and crispness. also, if you go the ML website and read the manual, you will see a lot of info on how critical good placement is and how critical distance from walls is, etc. i was too intimidated and too concerned about this to make the jump.

for movies, i wanted something that gave a wider soundstage and did not have such detailed positioning issues.

just one person's opinion.

 

[mailman23]

one of the other things I have to consider is this:I have about a 10,000 budget for a new tv and surround set up.If I get the logans,I have to get a smaller tv(50 inches),a Denon reciever(no external amp) and no surrounds,do to the cost of the ml center $1800.If I go polk,I can get all 5 or 7 speakers RTI10's,matching center surrounds, new reciever, external amp to drive the 10's and a 60 inch tv.I'm no sure if I should take the higher end ml's and wait for otherthings or just mack out with the polks.

 

[jonnythan]

60 inch TV?

Projector with a 100" screen dude

 

[mailman23]

60 inch TV?

Projector with a 100" screen dude

too much light from windows etc...family room LCOS tv best option

 

[Johnny Canuck]

How about RTI 8's all around? Would be great for music. Seriously, the 12's with a sub is overkill as you set the crossover at 80hz anyways and the drivers are not used much..a little mid bass but not worth the extra $1000!

Just my opinion. The 12's and the 6's are ok, but if i had to do it again, i might consider the 8's all around , or maybe even Axiom.

JC

 

[Hipnotic4]

IMO,

the ML clarity's are great with some caveats. i think you have to be in a very narrow sweet spot in front of the speakers to get the most from their signature clarity and crispness. also, if you go the ML website and read the manual, you will see a lot of info on how critical good placement is and how critical distance from walls is, etc. i was too intimidated and too concerned about this to make the jump.

for movies, i wanted something that gave a wider soundstage and did not have such detailed positioning issues.

just one person's opinion.

yeapp thats why i didnt like em..the positioning was soo crucial..

And to the poster comparing the civic to an NSX LOL..you can esily get a civic and put like what 20-30gz IF that..into it and have it outperform an nsx..Just because something costs more does not mean its better..

 

[JP_Silver_S2k]

i'd choose the polks, if your looking at the rti12's you may also want to consider the LSi's (much better speaker)

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

These are priced around the RTi speakers. Internet only, like AV123 and Axiom, but nicer looking IMO.

http://www.swanspeaker.com/speaker/htm/index.asp?type=A

 

[j_garcia]

And to the poster comparing the civic to an NSX LOL..you can esily get a civic and put like what 20-30gz IF that..into it and have it outperform an nsx..Just because something costs more does not mean its better..

I'd still take the NSX... If you buy a Civic and put $30K into it you're a fool, because at the end of the day, it's still a Civic no matter how fast it is. I've owned my share of them. You won't be converting a Civic to RWD either... If you're going to spend $30K, a used NSX would be a much better deal (and any number of other cars).

 

[Hipnotic4]

lotta diff factors come into play- If your not into hooking up cars than yes you are a fool. but if thats your hobby, then i wouldnt call it foolish. I would tell you to head out to raceway park but your in calii..i seen some amazing work done on cars and some time trails 4 a civic that will make your face go like thissss its still a "civic" yes but you can do wonders for cheapp..and NSX is overrrrrrr priced

 

[Johnny Canuck]

This wasn't really about cars but oh well....

A Civic is still a Civic. It's not about speed dude, it's class. NSX reaks of it. Ok, it could be a $90,000 Porsche or BMW, NSX isn't the issue, A pimped up Civic isn't cool to people over 30.

JC

 

[Hipnotic4]

LOL your comparing a PORSCHE AND BMW with a NSX?

NSX is garbage. I have seen Civic,evos and Stis rip that car at the tracks. even. it is NOT worth the money. I dont see why anyone would pay soo much for that car..its not worth the money at all. its not even big in china/Japan. Seriously you have to be out of your mind to pay 90gz for a acura/honda. You can buy a cheaper car and hook it up and come out to less than the total of that car and come out with an overall better performing car.

Just PM me guys and ill give you my SN and we can discuss this topic privately...

 

[Sheep]

I think we can all agree that the 1990 Toyota Tercel DX 2dr hatchback was the best sports car ever constructed.

With Blown CV joints, an oil leek from the valve cover, and a magnaflow flow through muffler, its a shoe-in for top spot.

It would pull 135KPH down hill, with a strong gust behind it. Unbelievable performance.

As for Plk. vs. MTL, go for what you like, and can afford.

SheepStar

 

[Johnny Canuck]

Again, hipnotic, you missed my point.

I just used the Acura-Honda analogy as an example. It could have been a BMW, a Porsche, hell even a Corvette. The car is not the issue. my point was, a $90,000 vehicle is nicer than a $30,000 one. Maybe you would want to put $50,000 into a $30,000 car, which is just plain retarded. A pimped out Civic is a Civic no matter how you look at it. i laugh at these guys who put more into what they paid for the car and then when they go to sell it, lose thousands. Again, anyone over 30 who drives a pimped out car looks ridiculous. Women think you must be compensating for other deffeciencies. Speed is not the issue. You could buy a POS Dodge or a Mustang and be like every other redneck but your car can go really really fast. So what.

The point is a speaker that costs 3 X what another does should blow it away as the materials it is made with are that much better.

 

[kelly]

Klipsch Just released there new reference series line up last week. I haven't heard them, but as a current klipsch owner, and a past polk owner I would recomend checking them out. The new rf83 floorstanding speakers run about $1200. each. They are rated at 100db sensitivity 250rms and 1000 peak. with three 8'' drivers. They might be worth taking a look at before you decide. I had polk for years, and kept blowing them. I would send them back to polk and they would fix them everytime until the 5 year warranty was up. After that the next time the blew up the got to sit on the curb for trash day.