Plugging in an Amplifier

[MacManNM]

Not totally correct. Check your kitchen wiring. You need at least 2 circuits that are 20A rated, yes, the wire is 12ga because of it, but then check your outlets. Do you see one with a T slot on one side? I doubt it, so that is only a 15A outlet. I have 20A outlets though, I put it in.
The kitchen has the 20A circuit because of the loading you can put on one circuit, up to the limit of 20A.

So, you need the wire to match the breaker but not the outlets.

This depends on the state you live in. In all the ones I have seen, code will not allow you to put a 15 amp outlet on a 20 amp circuit. Unless it is multiple receptacles.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Unless it is multiple receptacles.

That is the whole idea, isn't it? Since you need an outlet at every 6 ft and in a kitchen probably much closer, and those tracked houses usually have only two breakers for the kitchen outlets, hence multiple outlets per breaker, right?

 

[MacManNM]

That is the whole idea, isn't it? Since you need an outlet at every 6 ft and in a kitchen probably much closer, and those tracked houses usually have only two breakers for the kitchen outlets, hence multiple outlets per breaker, right?

Yes, but most of these new houses run the lights and outlets on the same breaker, so you have to be careful.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Yes, but most of these new houses run the lights and outlets on the same breaker, so you have to be careful.

In the kitchen? I don't think so. I believe the code is very specific about kitchen outlet circuits. And, if one puts lighting on a 20A circuit, that is still irrelevant to what current capacity the outlets are, no?

 

[MacManNM]

In the kitchen? I don't think so. I believe the code is very specific about kitchen outlet circuits. And, if one puts lighting on a 20A circuit, that is still irrelevant to what current capacity the outlets are, no?

Who puts their HT stuff in the kitchen? Get a clue, try to stay within the bounds of the subject matter.

And my point is, that in most houses the lights and outlets are on the same circuit. which is a 15A circuit, not a 20.

 

[gcmarshall]

This is the info I received directly from Rotel regarding the RMB-1095 amplifier......

"The plug is actually a standard 3 prong plug, without the horizontal tip. The reason that I recommend a separate 20 amp circuit is that when this amplifier is powered on it has an inrush current around 15 amps. I would say that the RMB-1095 draws around 8 to 10 amps of current during normal use. I could see the potential for this amp to continually trip a 15 amp circuit. As far as the potential hazards I could not say. That type of question may be better directed to an electrician. I always recommend that customers install separate 20 amp, slow trip, circuit breakers for this size of amp."

 

[MacManNM]

This is the info I received directly from Rotel regarding the RMB-1095 amplifier......

"The plug is actually a standard 3 prong plug, without the horizontal tip. The reason that I recommend a separate 20 amp circuit is that when this amplifier is powered on it has an inrush current around 15 amps. I would say that the RMB-1095 draws around 8 to 10 amps of current during normal use. I could see the potential for this amp to continually trip a 15 amp circuit. As far as the potential hazards I could not say. That type of question may be better directed to an electrician. I always recommend that customers install separate 20 amp, slow trip, circuit breakers for this size of amp."

I think that may be an exageration. I doubt you are going to have a problem tripping the circuit breakers. I have monster amps that I have run at full boar and not tripped a breaker, you might get some line sag but thats about it.

 

[gcmarshall]

MacManNM,

Are your amps on a shared 15 amp circuit? I should have included my original e-mail to Rotel wherein I indicated that the amp, if I bought it, would be on a shared 15 amp circuit until we move next year.

 

[Hi Ho]

However, because your amp will be on the same circuit as your lights, I highly recommend a quality power conditioning unit like a Furman, Tripp-Lite, Panamax, or if you can get a good price on it, Monster. This is an absolute necessity if you have any lights on rheostats (variable resistor switches). Variable resistors + halogen lights = Loud, Obnoxious Buzzing in the electrical lines. Without a good line conditioner, you will hear this noise in your speakers.

I have my receiver (certainly not high power like the Rotel) on a circuit that includes the entire living room and part of the kitchen. Several compact flourecent lights, one halogen light on a dimmer, the TV, a fish tank filter pump, microwave, stand mixer, and some other things are connected to the circuit (the microwave will be getting it's own circuit soon). I don't hear ANY humming or noise of any kind in my speakers with the lights and even the microwave turned on, even when I turn the volume way up with nothing playing.

 

[aarond]

MacManNM,

Are your amps on a shared 15 amp circuit? I should have included my original e-mail to Rotel wherein I indicated that the amp, if I bought it, would be on a shared 15 amp circuit until we move next year.

If you are moving next year and this is the amp that you want. Buy it and know that you pobably won't be able to crank it to window breaking spl's untill you move. If you are staying, hire an electrician and add a circuit.

aaron

 

[Reorx]

I have 2 amps, 2 DVD players, 1VCR, receiver, TV, and a lamp plugged into 2 powerstrips that are daisy chained into 1 wall plug. And my TV wouldnt turn on. I moved the TV from the power strip to the same outlet on the wall, and everything works. albiet, when I turn things up, the lights dim in time with the music. I know this isnt good for the equipment, so limit myself to use 1 dvd player, and turn off the light.

Apartment buildings suck. Can't wait until I build my house.

Reorx

 

[MacManNM]

MacManNM,

Are your amps on a shared 15 amp circuit? I should have included my original e-mail to Rotel wherein I indicated that the amp, if I bought it, would be on a shared 15 amp circuit until we move next year.

I had several amps on the same circuit for a while, a 250W/ch, a 100W/ch, and a 50W/ch, all plugged into 2 seperate plugs on the same 15A circuit. I turned them all on and off at the same time, and played them all at the same time (quite loud i might add) and never tripped a circuit.

 

[gcmarshall]

MacManNM,

Thanks for the reply.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Who puts their HT stuff in the kitchen? Get a clue, try to stay within the bounds of the subject matter.

And my point is, that in most houses the lights and outlets are on the same circuit. which is a 15A circuit, not a 20.

I think it is you who is short of something. Check the initial post on my objection and 20A circuits.
Your family room is another where you need at least one 20A circuit, yet 15A outlets are the norm on that branch. And perhaps lights are on that branch as well. Best if you check some of the codes better before you speak of what you are lacking about.

 

[MacManNM]

I think it is you who is short of something. Check the initial post on my objection and 20A circuits.
Your family room is another where you need at least one 20A circuit, yet 15A outlets are the norm on that branch. And perhaps lights are on that branch as well. Best if you check some of the codes better before you speak of what you are lacking about.

So what's your point? Yes 20 circuits would be nice, but it's just not normally done anymore. You make it sound as if you can toss a 20A breaker in and poof! everything is fine. You need to run #12 wire, make sure that there are no lights on the circuit, ect. People that listen to you are going to end up burning down their house. Scratch that, no one really listens to you anyhow.

 

[mtrycrafts]

So what's your point? Yes 20 circuits would be nice, but it's just not normally done anymore. You make it sound as if you can toss a 20A breaker in and poof! everything is fine. You need to run #12 wire, make sure that there are no lights on the circuit, ect. People that listen to you are going to end up burning down their house. Scratch that, no one really listens to you anyhow.

You are grabbing at straw now, imagining things not written. Stop your silliness and insinuating not posted. You are totally off base.

Try to read the posts and see if you can figure them out instead of making nonsense posts about what was not stated or recommended and houses being burned down. Get real. Your post doesn't deserve a response.

You only need to worry about who listens to you.