Please help me choose one of these bookshelfs.

[photoeye]

Hi,

I have narrowed it down to:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.1

Energy RC-10

Energy Veritas 2.2

For 2 channel stereo music only. No home theater use, well for now
I would like the best sound stage, natural sound. I'm too concerned about the lower freq.

Does anyone have these or used both?

Thanks for your help!

 

[JaceTheAce]

There's a few people with RC-10's on this board... and some with the Veritas line. Can some of you chime in?

All I can say is I just love my Energy C-3's. You can't go wrong with Energys. Please listen to them first and whatever sounds good to you is what you should get Energys produce a neutral sound without any overbrightness and are a great value.

 

[photoeye]

thanks for your reply. sorry for the typo, I meant to say, I'm NOT too concerned about the lower freq.

I'm on the west coast. I did the energy dealer search, could not locate any place to hear them locally. they seem to be hard to find. are there any reputable online dealers that I could order from?

thanks again!

 

[3x10^8]

I'm also an energy owner and subscribe to the notion that you really can't go wrong with the energy's. Energy does not, for the most part, allow internet sales. The reason I say "for the most part" is that the only energy speakers I have seen for sale on the internet with an authorized energy warranty were the C-3's on sale at audioadvisor a little while ago and that was due to a special clearance sale. You have to go through an authorized dealer in order to fetch some speakers with a warranty. Where on the west coast are you? Email the guys at energy... Scott Goodman and the rest of the staff over there are truly superb at answering any of the questions you might have. There's also a really good user's forum over there, here's a link.

 

[Daz3d&Confus3d]

I like the Energy Veritas 2.2!.....they're a solid unit...look sharp and sound good imo.

 

[deftech]

I think energy makes a very good speaker for the money. Have not heard the warfdale so cant comment. I too am looking for book shelfs for my office. After much searching and reading I ordered a pair of XL-S from av 123. They are 238.00 shipped. I will say I never thought I would order a pair of speakers without hearing them, but I read too many good things about theese not to give them a try.

 

[3db]

Have you considered PSB Stratus mini?

Hi,

I have narrowed it down to:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.1

Energy RC-10

Energy Veritas 2.2

For 2 channel stereo music only. No home theater use, well for now
I would like the best sound stage, natural sound. I'm too concerned about the lower freq.

Does anyone have these or used both?

Thanks for your help!

These speakers have garnered only positive reviews from the audio community and are a highly respected speaker. There only drawback is thay they are power hungry and require a robust amplifier to drive them.

 

[Bryguy]

Have you tried Totems. Great sound but a little pricey.

Bryguy

 

[Sheep]

If money was no object, I would jump ALL OVER the 2.2i's. My FAVORITE bookshelf (well, not really, they're huge!) speaker.

I found the RC-10 to be more nuetral throught the mids, while the Veritas 2.2i to be warmer (but it wasn't "forward").

You can't go wrong with either one, just depends if you wanna drop the bomb for the 2.2i's.

SheepStar

 

[silversurfer]

I have heard the older 2.2's...not the 2.2i's, and felt they were a great sounding speaker, very neutral and natural.

Have you listenned to all the speakers in question?

 

[photoeye]

I would like to thank everyone for your great input. It really helps.
I'm in Southern California. Have not received a response from Energy yet regarding local dealers.

I have not heard any of these speakers so I'm getting advise from you wonderful audio guru's. I currently have the Infinty Intermezzo 2.6. They are great but just too in your face, I used them for surrounds before but since I don't have the room, I set them up in my bedroom for 2 channel music only.
I also don't like the fact and did not know this till now is the internal amp drives the woofer, so the external amp drives on the tweeter. They were great for surrounds and eventually go back to that function.

I started to look into the B&W Nautilus bookshelfs but the price is way over my head so I turrned to the wharfdales and the energy's. I also looked into the Totem's, nice but again, way too pricey. I don't think my ears can discern 2K or more speakers.

so it's going to be either the RC-10 or the veritas 2.2i's. they are both power hungry? will a 60watt tube amp do the job? I have a small bedroom anyway, so I don't need it to blasting. I just want a nice, neutral, wide sound stage.

one last question, how far apart do you set up your rc-10's or veritas?
is 3 feet too short? I know the standard is suppose to be 6 feet or wider
but I just don't have the space. I'm currently listening with the Sonic Super T amp and I'm blown away. It's sounds so clear and lively, seems very accurate. I have to say it sounds better than my Pioneer Elite 53tx receiver set on direct or stereo mode. Too bad it just doesn't have the power.

 

[Daz3d&Confus3d]

yeah you can put them at 3ft but you'll lose abit of soundstage. Do what you have to do......60 watts?...I dont know, check their spec page. Just remember, underpowering speakers can be more damaging to them than overpowering.

 

[Sheep]

The word neutral and tube amp can't be used in the same sentence.

If you dislike the "in your face" sound, the RC-10s might be done. The 2.2i's are SO laid back, but i don't think they would pair with a tube amp well. The Pioneer would probly be better (more power, neutral-er).

SheepStar

 

[3x10^8]

IMHO, setting the speakers only 3 ft. apart is not sufficient. Just as Dazed... mentioned, it will severely effect the soundstage. It puts the speakers directly in front of the listening position. Those intermezzo's are great speakers, but unfortunately are not being allowed to shine to their fullest potential. This is probably what's making them appear so "in your face." I only worry that you will purchase another relatively expensive pair of speakers to only find yourself dissatisfied again. Is there any way of spreading them apart a bit more? Just my $.02...

 

[corey]

Unless your main listening position is within 3' or so of the speakers, you need to get them further apart. Maybe wall mounting would help. The speakers you've mentioned are both rear-ported, so you might want to look for something front ported, or sealed, which would work better near the wall. My own soultion is Klipsch RB-61's on wall mounts.

 

[photoeye]

My listening position is about 11 ft. from the speakers. Unfortunately, I have wall to wall furniture, the length of the front wall is 9ft where the speakers are. I have a bookshelf, a file cabinet which functions as a entertainment center holds the dvd player,amp,etc.. and a small student desk. so it basically fills up the wall.

I did set up the intermezzo 2.6 in my front room, there were about 7 ft. apart and my listen position is about 10ft. away. the sound was still in your face. maybe my rooms are just too small?

Now I'm just curious, if I mount the bookshelf speakers, ideally they should be ear/eye level right? but in my case they would have to be up higher, more like 4.5ft and tilt down. would that sound strange with the speakers being so high? the reason it needs to be highed is I have to clear the desk hutch, it's a flimsy student desk so it would not support the weight.

I'm going play with the positioning some more before I jump the gun and get the energy's. So the Veritis is not recommended for a tube amp? the rc-10's are small enough to wall mount. the intermezzo 2.6's are quite heavy.

okay, thanks again!

 

[Pyrrho]

Hi,

I have narrowed it down to:

Wharfdale Diamond 9.1

Energy RC-10

Energy Veritas 2.2

For 2 channel stereo music only. No home theater use, well for now
I would like the best sound stage, natural sound. I'm too concerned about the lower freq.

Does anyone have these or used both?

Thanks for your help!

You really need to listen for yourself. It makes absolutely no difference which one I prefer, or anyone else, other than you, as you are the one who will be listening to them. If at all possible, listen to speakers before you buy them, and if that is not possible, only buy from someone with a very good return policy so you can get your money back if you are not fully satisfied.

My advice is to go to every good audio dealer in your area, and listen to as many speakers as you can that are within your price range. You might find something very good that way that you have not even considered.

Also, your room and the placement in your room will impact how any speaker sounds. So you might want to read some of the articles at this web site about speaker placement and room acoustics before you get rid of what you have and buy something new. A room with poor acoustics will make anything sound bad.

 

[Sheep]

My listening position is about 11 ft. from the speakers. Unfortunately, I have wall to wall furniture, the length of the front wall is 9ft where the speakers are. I have a bookshelf, a file cabinet which functions as a entertainment center holds the dvd player,amp,etc.. and a small student desk. so it basically fills up the wall.

I did set up the intermezzo 2.6 in my front room, there were about 7 ft. apart and my listen position is about 10ft. away. the sound was still in your face. maybe my rooms are just too small?

Now I'm just curious, if I mount the bookshelf speakers, ideally they should be ear/eye level right? but in my case they would have to be up higher, more like 4.5ft and tilt down. would that sound strange with the speakers being so high? the reason it needs to be highed is I have to clear the desk hutch, it's a flimsy student desk so it would not support the weight.

I'm going play with the positioning some more before I jump the gun and get the energy's. So the Veritis is not recommended for a tube amp? the rc-10's are small enough to wall mount. the intermezzo 2.6's are quite heavy.

okay, thanks again!

Neither of those Energy speakers have wall mount brackets. The Veritas 2.2i's are too heavy also(69Lbs/pair, RC-10 27lbs each).

Try the Speakers at home with your amp, but I think the Veritas are too laid back for a tube amp.

SheepStar

 

[cheatz]

What is a decent receiver that can handle the rc-10's well in the $500 usd range?