Planning to buy a new TV; want some cheap speakers to replace default.

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Mkilbride

Audioholic
Amazon.com: Sony SSF-5000 Floor Standing 3-way Speaker (Pair): Electronics

Planning about 150$ max.

Really cheap @ 92$ right now.

Don't got a receiver, I don't want to spend that much.

So plan to get this:

Amazon.com: FiiO D3 Digital to Analog Audio Converter - 192kHz/24bit Optical and Coaxial DAC: Electronics

+ this AMP

Amazon.com: Pyle Home PCA2 80-Watt Stereo Mini Power Amplifier: Electronics

Cables:

For only $2.18 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 10ft Optical Toslink 5.0mm OD Audio Cable | Toslink to Toslink - 5.0mm OD

For only $1.92 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 1.5ft Premium 2 RCA Plug/2 RCA Plug M/M 22AWG Cable - Black | Premium Analog RCA Cables

For only $5.87 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 50ft 18AWG CL2 Rated 2-Conductor Loud Speaker Cable (For In-Wall Installation) | 18AWG Loud Speaker Cables

My Audiophile friends helped pick it out. I'm not looking for the super best audio, or anything fancy. I wanted to get a decent setup for replacing the default speakers.


TV in question:

Newegg.com - Panasonic Viera 46" 600Hz (Sub-field Drive) Plasma HDTV TC-P46S30

They said this setup would work. Comes out to about 170$, 20$ish more than I wanted to spend, but looks nice. Anything would be better than the default 10w speakers in these newer TV's.


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Now I know this is a forum for serious audiophiles and whatnot, and that my minimum purchase / low quality thing I want here may seem strange, and you'll recommend me many other systems for several hundred dollars more.

But I just want opinions, suggestions, and to keep the price relatively low, 150$ is my wanted price range, for just some basic replacements for the shitty in-builts.
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
Sounds like a plan.

Let us know how it works out for ya.

One question: Is the digital output from the TV controllable from the TV's volume control or will you have to adjust the volume at the Pyle amp?
 
J

jcl

Senior Audioholic
That's coming in at a pretty low budget. As an alternative I might suggest:
For an avr with digital coax in I think the refurb Onkyo HT-RC230 is about as low as you'll find, $130 at shoponkyo club price or accessories4less. This will give you more flexibility if you decide to add other sources or surround sound.

https://www.shoponkyo.com/detail.cfm?productid=HT-RC230&modelid=24&group_id=1&detail=2

Onkyo HT-RC230 5.1-Channel 3-D Ready Home Theater Receiver | Accessories4less

Then maybe these speakers at $30 for the pair -
Dayton Audio B652 6-1/2" 2-Way Bookshelf Speaker Pair 300-652

Next up are probably these polks, but they break the budget -
[PAIR] Monitor 30 CHERRY Bookshelf Speakers Polk Audio | eBay
 
J

jcl

Senior Audioholic
and a used AVR - easy to find older model for about $50
I'm more comfortable going used on speakers than avr. It's easier to assess a speaker than a an avr and I think avrs fail far more regularly than speakers.

That said at this price point used is a great way to save money. I have an NAD stereo reciever that's over 20 years old and still going.
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
Why not look for a sound bar with and optical input. Most sound bars sound much better than the internal speakers.

Yamaha has a great solution:

YAS-101 - Sound Bar / Digital Sound Projector - Audio & Visual - Products - Yamaha United States

I have installed a few of these and they are pretty slick. It can actually learn codes from other remotes. For example, if you turn off the TV speakers and teach the sound bar the codes for volume/mute from your TV remote you can then control the volume with your TV remote.

It's $249 with free shipping on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-YAS-101BL-Front-Surround-System/dp/B005IVUWHW
 
B

Bassbinotoko

Enthusiast
There's lots of good deals on used stereo speakers out there in thrift store and yard sale land. I've picked up pairs of US/Canadian/UK-made speakers for between $6 and $25 a pair. Some could use new grille cloth, but they all worked fine, and originally sold for at least 10 times what I paid. The main risk is rotten foam surrounds (the rubbery ring around the woofer); some are made of a compressed foam that has good acoustical properties, but often deteriorates over time. It's not hard to replace the surrounds yourself, if it's a standard size (usually under $35 for a kit; much less if you can buy just the surrounds from a dealer in electronics service parts like Main Electronics in Vancouver). It helps to be familiar with audio brands so you can avoid the "white van" speakers.

Stereo receivers are common, too. I've seen Dolby Digital receivers from $25, and even an HDMI receiver for about $50. Some "home theater in a box" DVD/processor/amp units may be worth considering IF they have inputs for external digital sources. Power output will be modest, but generally the weak points are the teeny tiny stock speakers. They probably won't let you modify any of the speaker management settings that proper receivers or processors have, like "phantom centre" or whether to redirect bass from the main speakers to the sub (or vice versa if there's no subwoofer).

The way I see it, every dollar you don't spend on mediocre new stuff is a dollar you can put towards a nice HDMI receiver. (I'd suggest going with a 7.1 model since those tend to have other useful features like upconverting standard def inputs, so you don't have to change inputs on the TV as well as the receiver when switching between high and low definition sources).)

Keep in mind that any decent A/V receiver can be configured to use "phantom centre" if you only have 4 surround speakers, so you can enjoy full surround sound with just two pairs of stereo speakers. While front and rear should ideally match, in practise even identical speakers don't sound the same when located in different parts of the room, so don't worry about it. If you pick up a pair of bargain stereo speakers and are particularly pleased with them, get a matching pair from a classified seller.

When you're ready for a subwoofer, building it yourself is an attractive option. It's just one box that can be hidden in a corner or behind furniture, so doesn't have to tax your carpentry skills (although I highly recommend a router for best results). Take a look at the DIY section at AVSforum. Spending maybe $300 on a woofer and amp will get you something close to a $1000 retail sub. And next to a big screen, nothing makes more impact in a home theater than serious bass.
 

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