Pioneer VSX-52TX w/ B&W DM 620 questions.

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deadArt

Audiophyte
Hi,

My first post but I've been reading these forums for a while. I have a question regarding my amp and speaker matching.

I have a Poineer VSX-52TX receiver which can be set to 8ohms or 6ohms (8ohms preferably according to the manual). I just got the B&W DM 620 for a good deal and they sound great. Some online specs say they are 8 ohms, some 4 ohms. I measured it and apparently I got the 4 ohms speakers.

According to this article audioholics.com/education/frequently-asked-questions/connecting-4-ohm-speakers-to-an-8-ohm-receiver-or-amplifier (cant post links yet) its OK as long as I watch the volume and the receivers ventilation. Other posts say 4 ohm speakers with a 8 ohm amp is not recommended, other also say just to watch the levels.

I'm also running 4 Bose Model 100 for surround and surround back. They are rated 4-8 ohms. I measured them as 4 ohms. My centerchannel is from the polk audio RM 6700 series which is 8 ohms.

Right now I have my amp set at 8 ohms and keeping it at reasonable levels. Is this OK? I'm a causing any damage? Should I set the amp to 6 ohms for better power handling?

Besides replacing the amp or speakers, is there another solution to properly match the impedances? Is there a cheaper version of something like this: zeroimpedance.com/box.html?

Any advise or tips are highly appreciated.

Thanks
Oliver
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Welcome to the forum, Oliver!

Based on what I've read at Audioholics (both the professional articles and in this forum), you don't want to set the impedance switch on the receiver to 6 ohms. Just leave it at 8 ohms.

Lower impedances will draw more current from your receiver/amp. Some amplifier designs handle that better than others. I believe that the receiver will go into protection mode and shut down prior to damage being done, but others here may know better.
 
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Stereoguy

Audioholic
Pioneer 52tx w/620's

^^^ What Adam said.Plus I'd listen for clipping,music sounding strained, touch the top of your receiver to see if it is hot,warm is fine hot is not. Hope this helps.:)
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Hi,

My first post but I've been reading these forums for a while. I have a question regarding my amp and speaker matching.

I have a Poineer VSX-52TX receiver which can be set to 8ohms or 6ohms (8ohms preferably according to the manual). I just got the B&W DM 620 for a good deal and they sound great. Some online specs say they are 8 ohms, some 4 ohms. I measured it and apparently I got the 4 ohms speakers.

According to this article audioholics.com/education/frequently-asked-questions/connecting-4-ohm-speakers-to-an-8-ohm-receiver-or-amplifier (cant post links yet) its OK as long as I watch the volume and the receivers ventilation. Other posts say 4 ohm speakers with a 8 ohm amp is not recommended, other also say just to watch the levels.

I'm also running 4 Bose Model 100 for surround and surround back. They are rated 4-8 ohms. I measured them as 4 ohms. My centerchannel is from the polk audio RM 6700 series which is 8 ohms.

Right now I have my amp set at 8 ohms and keeping it at reasonable levels. Is this OK? I'm a causing any damage? Should I set the amp to 6 ohms for better power handling?

Besides replacing the amp or speakers, is there another solution to properly match the impedances? Is there a cheaper version of something like this: zeroimpedance.com/box.html?

Any advise or tips are highly appreciated.

Thanks
Oliver
A few things. First you can't measure speaker impedance with an ohm meter. With an Ohm meter you measure DC resistance. Impedance has to be measured dynamically and varies with frequency.

Your speakers are specified at 4 ohms on the B & W archive.

Most speakers are in fact four ohm these days, no matter what the manufacturer says.

You speakers are quite an old design. They use an 8" speaker with passive radiator. Sensitivity is high, so you should not have to push your receiver hard.

Now your speakers have an F3 point of 58 Hz, so they don't have a very good bass performance. Also with passive radiators bass usually falls away quicker than with standard ports, and the driver decouples from the box faster, leading to excess cone travel and damage. The max power for those speakers is 100 watts., and I would bet a lot less in the bass.

I'm more concerned about you damaging the speakers, with modern powers available, particularly with that type of design. If you are using a sub, I would recommend a small speaker setting and crossover no lower than 100 Hz. Those speakers are before the days of Hi-Fi speakers reproducing Hollywood's whiz bangs. Also those speakers were aimed at the classical music lover rather than heavy metal.
 
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deadArt

Audiophyte
Thanks everybody for the replies. Sorry for taking so long to get back (I wasn't aware that my profile was not set to get email notifications for replies).

I will be monitoring for clipping and also the amps temperature. The additional info on the speakers is also very helpful. These speakers don't produce the best bass. I'll play around with my sub to see what works best.

Cheers.
 
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