Pink Floyd Wish You Were Here SACD

Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
Where the heck is the SACD version of The Floyd's WYWH?

Wasn't it supposed to be out this year?

Has the project been shelved, possibly because of BR or HDDVD? (oh be still my heart:rolleyes: )

I'm not sure if I missed something or not.

Anybody hear anything?
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Yeah. What's up with that? Wish You Were Here is probably my favorite 'Floyd album. I wish they'd bring it out already.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Delayed indefinitely was the last thing I heard, and that was at the beginning of this year.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
Once my system is overhauled with new fronts and sub there's a lot of music I will have to listen to again and buy. This disc( if available) and DSOTM will be my first sacd purchases.:D
 
Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
j_garcia said:
Delayed indefinitely was the last thing I heard, and that was at the beginning of this year.
That bites. Aside from the desire to have WYWH in multi channel, which IMO is even better suited for MC than DSOM, I was hoping that release and the upcoming Genesis stuff would help breathe a little rock and roll life back into SACD.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
I think SACD is toast from a pop standpoint. It will probably keep going strong indefinately with Classical and Jazz.
 
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eirepaul

Audioholic
Rob Babcock said:
I think SACD is toast from a pop standpoint. It will probably keep going strong indefinately with Classical and Jazz.
Unfortunately, it looks like SACD and DVD-Audio are pretty much dead. Have you tried to find a popular title in either format lately? Most are hard to find, particularly in DVD-Audio (my favorite format), or are available for something like $90 used. I'm glad I picked up what I have when I did. Dual-disc is still surviving and may make it. I hope so - I love multi-channel music. It is so much more involving and revealing. Have you heard the Elton John SACDs? Fantastic sounding! The Genesis releases are promising and let's hope more artists can talk their labels into following suit.

Besides Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac have several albums already mixed in surround and just sitting there. It seems like it boils down to the fact that the mass market is just not into high resolution music - they are quite happy with their MP3s. If only they knew what they were missing - or maybe they just don't care or wouldn't even recognize quality sound. It's a real shame. I'll treasure my multi-channel music collection for a long time.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
I hope DualDisc dies- the discs "CD side" doesn't conform to Redbook specs and cannot hold as much music as a real CD, and the physical disc is thicker than either a CD or DVD. Because of this, most manufacturers warn the consumer not to use DualDisc in their machines.

The whole deal seems like a colossal blunder to me.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I've been bitten by Dual Disc already and I hope it dies and dies quickly as well.

SACD and DVD-A are alive and well, but "popular" titles will continue to be limited and that is FINE with me. I don't want them spending time mastering some crap pop album in a hirez format when they could be doing something useful.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Yeah, I love good multichannel, but I'm becoming disillusioned overall. Most pop recordings in MC go for gimmicks instead of natural sound. To me the idea of MC is to more accurately recreate the ambient space of the recording, to sonically transport you to that space. But what we usually get is the guitar solos erupting behind you, drums to the left rear, lead vocals wandering around the room, etc. Now this is okay for The Flaming Lips or Pink Floyd, where those decisions are based on artistic reasons, but very distracting for most works.

It seems things are much better in the classical realm. The rear channels generally are reserved for hall ambience and generally support the sound, not everwhelm it.

I further agree that for the jazz and classical fan, there's a wealth of material on DVD-A and SACD, and the catalog grows almost daily. Lets stick a fork in DualDisc and focus on CDs for mainstream pop, DVD-A & SACD for art music, and hopefully we'll get one more chance to do it right once the BluRay/HD-DVD battle shakes itself out.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I will take a very good STEREO hirez mix over a bad m/c mix any day. So far, when I pick up a disc that I don't like the m/c mix on, I always end up listening to the stereo track on those discs instead.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
Agreed. Although since my Denon universal is set to automatically play back the soundtrack with the most channels, I would actually have to turn on my PJ to change it.
 
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eirepaul

Audioholic
"SACD and DVD-A are alive and well, but "popular" titles will continue to be limited and that is FINE with me. I don't want them spending time mastering some crap pop album in a hirez format when they could be doing something useful."
And what do you consider a "crap pop album". I agree we don't need a Brittney Spears release in m/c, but there are great m/c mixes of artists like Steely Dan, Eagles, James Taylor, John Hiatt, America, Fleetwood Mac, Beach Boys, etc. - some classic albums! They sound tremendous in m/c and bring out nuances in this great music not immediately evident previously.

"I further agree that for the jazz and classical fan, there's a wealth of material on DVD-A and SACD, and the catalog grows almost daily. Lets stick a fork in DualDisc and focus on CDs for mainstream pop, DVD-A & SACD for art music, and hopefully we'll get one more chance to do it right once the BluRay/HD-DVD battle shakes itself out."
I have a lot of jazz music; I'm not into classical at all - I find it pleasant but kind of boring mostly, but that's me. I do not see the DVD-A catalog growing for any genre - it seems dead. For SACD classical releases - yes, they are still coming out. I have had no issue with dual-disc releases and mostly listen to the m/c side. What is "art music"? Pink Floyd, Genesis, Beck?

"I will take a very good STEREO hirez mix over a bad m/c mix any day. So far, when I pick up a disc that I don't like the m/c mix on, I always end up listening to the stereo track on those discs instead."
Agreed - I have a couple of m/c mixes that are not very good so the stereo mix is preferred, but it is only about two out of over 50.

Everybody enjoying this great hobby of ours has their own preferences, as it should be. For me, m/c rock and jazz music is the best thing to come along in quite a while and has enhanced my enjoyment of my system tremendously. I just hope they keep releasing "popular" titles such as classic and new rock and jazz albums in m/c - maybe BluRay or HD-DVD is our last chance. We just have to prove we will buy them!
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I wouldn't call "classics" pop crap :) Steely Dan is an excellent example. I like the fact that bands like Porcupine Tree, Polyphonic Spree, Beck, Linkin Park and recently BT are putting out great m/c stuff as well.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
You'd see the DVD-A catalog growing if you were looking, but you won't find them at Best Buy. There are a few good online vendors with an impressive selection of DVD-A, as well as SACD.

Sorry to be vague- art music is a phrase generally used to describe classical.
 
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eirepaul

Audioholic
Rob Babcock said:
You'd see the DVD-A catalog growing if you were looking, but you won't find them at Best Buy. There are a few good online vendors with an impressive selection of DVD-A, as well as SACD.

Sorry to be vague- art music is a phrase generally used to describe classical.
Rob - Best Buy? Please! I'm aware of Acoustic Sounds, DVD Empire, etc. That is where I have purchased most of my discs, along with using Amazon's large selection of used and new disc vendors. The last time I looked at Acoustic Sounds a number of titles were no longer available or in very limited supply (Hotel California, The Captain and Me, Winelight, etc.). There are still titles available but I don't think the list is growing much. I hope I am proven wrong. There is nothing I would like more than to see labels issue the titles that have already been mixed in m/c and are just sitting there. They've spent the money to re-mix them - why don't they try to recoup some of it?
 
Starmax

Starmax

Full Audioholic
The Doors - Perception

Has anyone spent $130.00 plus tax for the new DVD-A collection of the Doors? L.A. Woman was the only hi-rez disc available before now, and I thought it sounded good, especially "Riders on the Storm." It just wasn't one of my favorite albums of theirs musically. I'd love to hear "The End," "Soft Parade," and "When the Music's Over" in 5.1 DVD-A, but I'm hesitant to drop that much cash. Any opnions out there?
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

Moderator
NAXOS is still issuing plenty of MC classical. I get quite a few from HBDirect.com. MusicDirect and CDUniverse are other good sources. And I haven't checked real recently, but last I knew AIX was still cranking 'em out, too. I have some really great sounding DVD-A's from them.
 
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WeAreSurrounded

Audioholic
Pink Floyd in surround - patience is a Lunatic's virtue

Nomo said:
Where the heck is the SACD version of The Floyd's WYWH?
Wasn't it supposed to be out this year?
Has the project been shelved, possibly because of BR or HDDVD? (oh be still my heart:rolleyes: )
I'm not sure if I missed something or not.
Like somebody else said - delayed :eek:
But, remember how many times the release of concert DVD "Pulse" was postponed ? Finally it came out and it was really worthy waiting ...
Not to mention, that there's no DVD version of "Delicate Sound of Thunder" available yet ...

With Pink Floyd, like with Genesis, you have to learn to be patient ;)
They have to figure out all of their "artistic differences" on the final outcome, between strong D.Gilmour camp and Roger Waters ideas.
[similarly to P.Collins group/Peter Gabriel genius - in Genesis]
Personally I don't think they will bury the M/C projects (like Genesis didn't), even if they don't make a buck on them - they can afford it ... :cool:
 
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Hawkeye

Full Audioholic
WeAreSurrounded said:
With Pink Floyd, like with Genesis, you have to learn to be patient ;)
If and until then there are "surround" mixes of Wish You Were Here, The Wall, Meddle, etc floating around. Not nearly the real thing but interesting nonetheless.
 

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