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02ViperTodd

Junior Audioholic
I've noticed I have burn in on my TV which is only 4 months old. It's about 12" on either side of the screen. I'm not sure if it's because of commercials on HD or content that is not HD on HD channells (direct TV).

I just purchased a Yamaha 863 which upconverts signals (via HDMI) to 1080P. Does this mean If my wife is watching Oprah (which usually is smaller than the screen) will be full screen? Thus preventing the screen burn?

If not, how do you folks with big plasmas keep from getting the burn?

Thanks,
Todd
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
You have to get that thing replaced. I am a victim of Oprah burn in but that happens around 4" in from the edge. They replaced my TV and I tried stretching my 4:3 programs to wide screen but one of my S/O's favorite local channels transmits a 4:3 HD picture with the black bars included. The burn in lines came back.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
You have to get that thing replaced. I am a victim of Oprah burn in but that happens around 4" in from the edge. They replaced my TV and I tried stretching my 4:3 programs to wide screen but one of my S/O's favorite local channels transmits a 4:3 HD picture with the black bars included. The burn in lines came back.
I agree that TV is no good. My Plasma is two years old now and there are no burn issues. Probably a bad TV design I'm afraid. Low price points = JUNK. The whole problem is that the marketing departments are in charge. It starts with we want to build x for $y. The first question should be: is it any good? The problem is that question is not asked at the start of the design and throughout the design process.
 
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02ViperTodd

Junior Audioholic
TLSGUY? Low price points? Try pricing the FP-T6374.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
TLSGUY? Low price points? Try pricing the FP-T6374.
Manufacturer: Samsung
Part Number: FPT6374
Lowest price: $3479.95

I think that is a low price point for a 63 inch plasma screen. Panasonic do not make a 63 inch, but their nearest is a 65 inch.

Panasonic TH-65PZ750U 65-Inch Plasma 1080p Flat Panel HDTV
Price: $4,469.00
 
Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
My understanding is that most new plasma tv's still need to be broken in for the first few hundred hours. There's been talk of using a breakin dvd that will play looped (nonstop) and people letting that run while they're at work or sleeping. After that initial period it is supposed to be harder, but not impossible, to get burn in.

BTW, Cnet lists the price range for that Panasonic TH-65PZ750U starting ~$3700, IIRC. Point being they both seem to only have about a $500 price difference, not exactly dramatic.:)

Jack
 
rgriffin25

rgriffin25

Moderator
Give it some time, new plasmas tend to "retain" images a bit more than they do after they "break in" as mentioned before. Make sure the Contrast is not maxed out. Most TVs I have seen come out of the box with the picture levels off the charts. Buy one of the many calibration discs available and adjust your picture to reduce the risk of permanent damage.
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
I've noticed I have burn in on my TV which is only 4 months old. It's about 12" on either side of the screen. I'm not sure if it's because of commercials on HD or content that is not HD on HD channells (direct TV).

I just purchased a Yamaha 863 which upconverts signals (via HDMI) to 1080P. Does this mean If my wife is watching Oprah (which usually is smaller than the screen) will be full screen? Thus preventing the screen burn?

If not, how do you folks with big plasmas keep from getting the burn?

Thanks,
Todd
You now know why so many people are buying LCD TVs instead of plasma. LCD does not have this problem, and your wife could watch Oprah all she wants without fear of damage to an LCD set.

Basically, with your TV, you need to virtually always have a picture covering the entire screen. This means you need to distort or crop the image to make it fit. Hopefully, you have the "aspect ratio" choices in your set to accomplish this. If your wife hates both distorted and cropped images, you will need to buy her something else to watch, like an LCD or some other option.

And, as rgriffin25 says, it is a good idea to get a setup disc and adjust your picture settings with it. Basically, the higher the brightness and contrast, the more likely (and sooner) burn-in occurs.
 
bandphan

bandphan

Banned
retention sounds like it, and follow the break/burn in advice. Can you change the color of the side bars on your set? If so switch them for a while.
 
rgriffin25

rgriffin25

Moderator
You now know why so many people are buying LCD TVs instead of plasma. LCD does not have this problem, and your wife could watch Oprah all she wants without fear of damage to an LCD set.

Basically, with your TV, you need to virtually always have a picture covering the entire screen. This means you need to distort or crop the image to make it fit. Hopefully, you have the "aspect ratio" choices in your set to accomplish this. If your wife hates both distorted and cropped images, you will need to buy her something else to watch, like an LCD or some other option.

And, as rgriffin25 says, it is a good idea to get a setup disc and adjust your picture settings with it. Basically, the higher the brightness and contrast, the more likely (and sooner) burn-in occurs.
The problem with LCD is price.. To get a 60 to 70" LCD you are going to spend some serious cash! I think Sony has an 70" LCD for a Pricey $36k. If the plasma is set up correctly it would dramatically reduce his chance of burn in. Also, oprah is available on an analog channel that can be stretched to avoid the gray bars.
 
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02ViperTodd

Junior Audioholic
Hi All,

I did do the Avia II calibration just after I bought the TV. A couple of weeks ago I had a company come in and do it again so I could compare my results with theirs. Thats when they pointed out the burn in problem. The set does have a pixel shift setting, which was maxed, and a scan setting. The scan setting moves a white app 6" swath across the whole screen going back and forth. Should I try the scan thing before returning this set?

Thanks buckeyefan and majorlooser, I'll burn that disk and try it also.

Thanks,
Todd
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
The burn in I mentioned in post#2 was on the LCD listed in my sig. Crazy, huh?
 
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NapaDRB

Junior Audioholic
I would second Majorlosers recommendation of the break in DVD, they will also sell you a copy for pretty cheap if you have problems burning it. I would also try the "scan" you mention that is built in to your display.
 
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02ViperTodd

Junior Audioholic
Hi All,

I think the damage is done..and Samsung has screwed me see the post in the TV section...I'm torqued!! 4 months old...Never ...aw..forget it...

DO NOT BUY A SAMSUNG PLASMA!!!

Todd
 

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