I was at a local dealer to pickup a stand for my Persona C and he had the founder series all over the store.  He played me a quick demo of the 120h with ARC.   All I have to say is that the bass was insane.  It was tight, accurate, and shook the 2nd floor demo room.  I know there might not be a lot of fans for having powered subs in their speakers, but I am really curious how these these measure.  They seem to have a much more laid back than the paradigms I am used to.   My demo was very brief, but I was impressed.