I would like to throw in 2 cents to this convo. I would absolutely stay away from Onkyo at least until they fix their chip and customer service issues. I have a TX-SR806 that has the exact same issues as the recalled/extended warranty models....low and behold....mine does not qualify. CS person didn't want to hear that the issues started...of course as soon as the warranty ran out! What BS!! CS refused to believe that maybe their chip problems are more wide spread than they think. Better yet, I live in PA, the closest authorized service center is in E. Syracuse, NY., I could buy a new unit for what it will cost to ship it there! Their old stuff was amazing must admit....had a TX8500 that lasted 30 year and was still operable.....just wanted something updated....what a mistake....my bad! Not so much so for their new stuff. The more I dig on their new products, the worst the story's get....I would advise anyone to stay away. For $900.00 (that was 8 years ago) you can buy a much better piece of equipment.