Onkyo Receiver Heat Issues

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RiverRunner

Audiophyte
I have an Onkyo TX-NR809 Receiver. I've read that people have issues with heat with current Onkyo's.

I drive 6 M&K S1B speakers, an M&K center and two M&K subs. These are 4 ohm speakers for a receiver that likes 8 ohms. I have a large room so I drive them moderately hard.

When I first got the receiver, I found it got hot after an extended session of higher volume so I started reading the book......when in doubt, read the instructions.....

I started playing around with the set up and found that if I limited the S1B's and center speakers to 90 herts, with the subs picking up the lower freqs, my system ran cool. I'm not an expert, but couldn't really tell a sound difference and my system runs really cool now.

Just 2 cents for discussion.

I very much appreciate the time and effort of people who are certified smart folks in audio helping out folks like me who just want to enjoy without the time investment.

Dave
 
fuzz092888

fuzz092888

Audioholic Warlord
I would say that you should go with whatever sounds best to you. If you didn't notice a difference and it runs cool then awesome. Personally, my 3009 runs warm-hot all the time no matter what and I only use it to drive the surrounds so I added a few fans and a fan controller. It keeps everything within a few degrees of room temp now and looks cool to boot.
 
F

FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
Yeah, it's a bit of a tricky situation with heat and Onkyo in particular.

On the one hand, there's no denying that many Onkyo receivers produce a great deal of heat. On the other hand, so do many, many other receivers, but they never seem to draw the same flak over it.

The simple fact is that any Class A/B amp - which is the vast majority of receiver amps out there - only turns about half of the electrical current that is drawn into actual Wattage to drive the speakers. The other half all turns into heat! So Onkyo is by no means unique in producing a lot of heat from its amps. The issue seems to be more instances of people reporting heat-related problems, such as shut downs. So it seems to be more about heat dissipation or other components of the receiver being too heat sensitive.

To be fair, I've also seen a number of Onkyo complaints where users really have not followed the instructions. I've seen receivers placed on carpet. I've seen receivers stuffed into cabinets with barely enough space to fit the receiver, let alone allow any air to circulate. I've seen receivers with other components stacked on top of them.

Again, on the one hand, every brand experiences these sorts of user errors and failures to follow the placement instructions. On the other hand, when the instructions ARE followed and the air is allowed to circulate properly around Onkyo's receivers, there tend to be fewer problems - almost as though the instructions were there for a reason :p

Onkyo does provide a "4 ohms" setting as well. All it does is limit the amount of current to the amps, which naturally lowers the temperature, but also chokes the amount of available power. While you can get more power out of the amp by leaving it in the "6 ohm" or "8 ohm" setting and still drive 4 ohm speakers just fine, you do run the risk of the amps overheating - again, almost as though the 4 ohm setting were there for a reason.

I think what really confuses things for most people is they see the "100 Watts per channel" or whatever the Wattage number is, and they naturally think, "great! So each channel can deliver 100 Watts (or 120 W or 135 W or whatever) at any given moment." Well that isn't really true. Onkyo clearly rates their amps with only 2 channels driven, meaning that the total available power is only twice the per channel rating, not 7x the per channel rating.

So, in truth, there just isn't all that much amplifier power truly available - especially if you are driving 5 or 7 speakers! For a large room, where significant amplifier power is genuinely needed, separate amplification for at least 2 or 3 of the channels is a very good idea! A pair of 200 Watt monoblocks has nearly double the power of the entire "pool" of amplifier power for all 7 channels in the 809 if you're running the 809 in "4 ohm" mode.

So, on the one hand, no denying the high level of heat that Onkyo's receivers can produce. But, on the other hand, if you follow the instructions for placement and air circulation, and limit the amp power by putting it in "4 ohm" mode as Onkyo advises, their receivers don't run any hotter than any other brand, and they rarely have issues. I chalk a lot of the "Onkyo bashing" up to people not following the instructions. However, I also sympathize and understand users' frustration because the specs can be misleading and people are naturally expecting higher output capabilities than what is actually available.
 
Zer0K3wL

Zer0K3wL

Junior Audioholic
My onkyo tx-nr609 run quite hot at times to fan aint even kicking in :D
however label on my onkyo say's may become fairly hot.

so i think its normal :p
 
J

jcl

Senior Audioholic
I've posted my experiences with my onkyo ht-rc180 a number of times. This is sister to the 807. Until i bought it I thought the people complaining simply didn't give Onkyos enough ventilation. Not so.

I ran it in an open shelf unit with 6" space above and it ran hot. I put it on the floor, with nothing above and 1' in front of the bdi unit. Even with no sound playing, just a screen saver displaying, it got hot to the touch.

I switched it to the 4ohm setting and it ran as cool as my H/K, NAD, Yamaha. I was using some external amps so I wasn't concerned about the limiting of the 4ohm setting.
 
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bikdav

Senior Audioholic
My Onkyo TX-SR 503 gets mighty hot also. I think the heat problem is an Onkyo thing and not anything that you are doing.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
The 809 is supposed to have an internal fan which should be helping. I live in a very hot (but also very dry) area so I use fans any place that air flow is even slightly constricted. When my 707 was in a cabinet and behind glass doors I added fans to draw out the heat. When I moved my 906 to a location with poor air flow I added a super quiet 200mm (8") fan above drawing the hot air away.
 

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