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Harrison476

Junior Audioholic
875 vs 805

With The 875

You can also bridge the surr-back and front together if you need additional power.

Also you can bi-wire ,if you have the right speakers.

I do not believe you can with the 805.
 
P

Panjsheri

Audioholic
That is the reason I decided to get the 875 over the 805 because I am not going to be buying a receiver every couple of years and would like something that would keep me happy for a while. Plus like you said I also have a HDPVR but when i watch SD TV it pisses me off BUT not since getting the 875. SDTV looks like 1080i because we all know it will never be actual 1080p reproduction and u know what I don't regret it one bit and would recommend it to all my friends!!!!!
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I am not sure I know what we are talking about here. The Onkyo 805 has less power than the 875.

875
Power Output -
Front L/R 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Center 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround L/R 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround Back L/R 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)

Dynamic Power
320 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
270 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
160 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)

and then the 805


Power Output -
Front L/R 130 W + 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W + 150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Center 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.05%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%, 2 channels
driven, FTC)
160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels
driven, FTC)
Surround L/R 130 W + 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W + 150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround Back L/R 130 W + 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W + 150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)

Dynamic Power
300 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
250 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
150 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)
Those don't look like lab measurements, they look like manufacturer's specifications. Is this a funny joke I am not getting?
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
With The 875

You can also bridge the surr-back and front together if you need additional power.

Also you can bi-wire ,if you have the right speakers.

I do not believe you can with the 805.
The TX-SR805 has assignable fronts and surround backs, I believe it can be used to bi-amp.
 
P

ParkerAudio

Full Audioholic
No funny joke? Those are the specs from the manufacturer, are you stating that Onkyo would put out specs for a higher priced, higher output model, according to them, and then have it put out less power? That doesn't make sense.
I am not saying that a freak of nature doesn't happen every now and then, but usually they are not going to make a better model, charge more for it, and then give it less power, if they say it has more power.

Are we going to start wondering if the Denon 4308 has more power than the 5308. I mean Denon says one has 140 and the other 150 watts of power.
 
P

Panjsheri

Audioholic
I am not sure I know what we are talking about here. The Onkyo 805 has less power than the 875.

875
Power Output -
Front L/R 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Center 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround L/R 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround Back L/R 140 W + 140 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
170 W + 170 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)

Dynamic Power
320 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
270 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
160 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)

and then the 805


Power Output -
Front L/R 130 W + 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W + 150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Center 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.05%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%, 2 channels
driven, FTC)
160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels
driven, FTC)
Surround L/R 130 W + 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W + 150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround Back L/R 130 W + 130 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz,
0.05%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
150 W + 150 W (8 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.7%,
2 channels driven, FTC)
160 W + 160 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%,
2 channels driven, FTC)

Dynamic Power
300 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
250 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
150 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)


Hmmm I don't understand the confusion....The 805 has 130 WPC and the 875 has 140 WPC. So that means the 875 is more powerful by 10 WPC which is expected because it is the higher end model. Now also you should consider that there is 1 more HDMI input and the HQV Reon chip which would explain the price difference. So again I don't understand where the confusion is coming from???:confused:
 
J

jaysonbarnett

Audioholic Intern
I was in the same boat because of my nintendo wii so i bought the 875 and got it home and the wii looked the same as it did before. I returned the 875 and got the 805 and a ps3 for the same price. You should always let the device(a.k.a. dvd player tv whatever) do the upscaling. This is only my opinion though.
 
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Panjsheri

Audioholic
I was in the same boat because of my nintendo wii so i bought the 875 and got it home and the wii looked the same as it did before. I returned the 875 and got the 805 and a ps3 for the same price. You should always let the device(a.k.a. dvd player tv whatever) do the upscaling. This is only my opinion though.

Yes in a way u are right and it is better to connect the component to the TV instead of through the av but if you have an Onkyo 875 or 905 like I do or any other receiver that has an HQV chip instead of a regular video scaler u wouldn't be making a mistake by doing so because of what the HQV is capable of. I found out after I hooked up my 905:D
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
No funny joke? Those are the specs from the manufacturer, are you stating that Onkyo would put out specs for a higher priced, higher output model, according to them, and then have it put out less power? That doesn't make sense.
I am not saying that a freak of nature doesn't happen every now and then, but usually they are not going to make a better model, charge more for it, and then give it less power, if they say it has more power.

Are we going to start wondering if the Denon 4308 has more power than the 5308. I mean Denon says one has 140 and the other 150 watts of power.
Consider the weight, they weigh the same. They have the same powers supply. Yes, it's very likely they threw those specifications on there. They are more than likely rated the same in power.

The Denons aren't comparable, the 5308 has a larger power supply and a heftier output stage than the 4308.
 
P

ParkerAudio

Full Audioholic
Seth, you are usually point on, but this time you have me scratching my head. Same weight = same power despite the specs? There are many things that are very close to being the same, but are not the same. Some slight modification or a change in one little part or the way the wires are run, make the difference.
Bottom line despite weight, or power supply or anything else you want to name the 805 is 130 watts and the 875 is 140 watts.
 
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