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Dude#1279435

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Another thing that was pointed out by WSJ is do you want to continue this large scale operation where you might be grabbing every illegal or do a smaller scale and just do hard criminals. I find it difficult to believe they're just grabbing hard criminals.
 
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Dude#1279435

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Trump has pulled Bovino from MN for Homan. I'd also recommend removing Noem as this spokesperson type after that fiasco.
 
mtrycrafts

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Seriously, I have no life.
Dude#1279435 said:
Another thing that was pointed out by WSJ is do you want to continue this large scale operation where you might be grabbing every illegal or do a smaller scale and just do hard criminals. I find it difficult to believe they're just grabbing hard criminals.
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Easy to grab and deport. Criminals have to be identified and properly located unlike in that Hmong case. That is hard work and time-consuming that will never reach Ts goals of large numbers. :eek:
 
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Dude#1279435

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Hahaha an anonymous call at work claiming to be from the US Marshalls office will be visiting with a series of search warrants. No sorry officers I don't know anything and haven't seen that face before. :p
 
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Dude#1279435

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Note the reasoning in bold.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Fears grow that Trump's mass deportation operation could collapse

Tom Homan's closest ally is warning that Trump's mass deportations effort could collapse in the next 24 hours if Trump retreats in Minneapolis.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

>>>Immigration hardliners warn that any deal by Homan that leads ICE agents to scale back their presence in Minnesota will be seen as a collapse of Trump’s mass deportation agenda and a win for liberal protesters.

These concerns come after Trump said in a Fox News interview on Tuesday that Homeland Security would 'deescalate a little bit' in Minneapolis.

Mike Howell, president of the Oversight Project and a longtime ally of Homan who has just been sent to Minnesota, is praying that his longtime friend won’t strike any deal with the Democrats who run the state. Howell has a longstanding professional relationship with Homan that goes back years over their shared views on immigration.

Rather, he said, Homan should hold the line and even surge more forces into the Twin Cities to avoid handing protesters a victory that could spell the end of the movement.

‘The mass deportation agenda could be completely wound back within the next 24 hours,’ Howell told the Daily Mail on Tuesday.

It's unclear what Homan's strategy will be during his negotiations with Democratic leaders and the ultimate decision will be left for Trump to decide.

A source close to the White House warned that if Trump blinks on mass deportations it would be the ‘biggest betrayal’ of Republican voters since George H.W. Bush broke his no-new-taxes promise and watched his presidency unravel in 1993.

‘If Trump backs down on deportations, he might as well pack it in. It will be the biggest betrayal to the base since George HW Bush raised taxes,’ the White House insider told the Daily Mail.<<<
 
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dlaloum

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Dude#1279435 said:
Another thing that was pointed out by WSJ is do you want to continue this large scale operation where you might be grabbing every illegal or do a smaller scale and just do hard criminals. I find it difficult to believe they're just grabbing hard criminals.
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Plenty of evidence out there, they demonstrably are not being selective at all, and people are being grabbed on the basis of the ICE thugs perception of their ethnicity (skin and or hair colour, the way they dress, accent, etc...) - and then family and friends have to mobilise to get even US citizens freed.

They are clearly breaking into people's homes without warrants ( at least without legal, judge issued, warrants!)

They have hired thousands of white supremacist goons, have set up a system of immunity, and unleashed them on the general populace, with predictable results.

No they are definitely not just grabbing hard criminals, in fact by all data currently available, hard criminals are a tiny minority of the people being swept up by the goons.
 
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dlaloum

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mtrycrafts said:
Easy to grab and deport. Criminals have to be identified and properly located unlike in that Hmong case. That is hard work and time-consuming that will never reach Ts goals of large numbers. :eek:
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It's a pretext, to hire, equip and empower Trumps Brownshirt militia.

Look at the history of the Brownshirts, which became Hitlers SA, and then finally became the SS.
History does not repeat.... but watch out for those rhymes.

(they are still at the Brownshirt stage... I hope the people of the USA will stop it before they develop into the SA)
 
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Mr._Clark

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It's not entirely clear how many people who were purportedly "arrested" recently in Minnesota were actually turned over to ICE by the DOC.

>>>The DOC said it took the "unprecedented step" of sharing surveillance footage that reportedly showed the transfer of two men into ICE custody.

This footage was taken on Jan. 12. The next day, the Department of Homeland Security shared a news release saying the two men, Meng Khong Yang and Joshua Fornoh, were arrested during Operation Metro Surge.<<<(emphasis added)

www.fox9.com

ICE in MN: Department of Corrections shows video disputing DHS account of arrests, ICE detainers

The Minnesota Department of Corrections (DOC) said the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is mischaracterizing how local authorities respond to ICE detainers, sharing video that shows a coordinated transfer of an inmate into ICE custody.
www.fox9.com www.fox9.com

>>>Every few days since Operation Metro Surge began, DHS has released lists of people it says have been arrested.

MPR News examined one of the lists shared by DHS officials on Monday, Jan. 12 and found that most of the people on the list had been immediately transferred to ICE custody at the end of time served in Minnesota prisons.

All of those transfers happened before ICE began its surge of operations in Minnesota on Dec. 1, 2025, with some even happening years before.<<<(emphasis added)


It appears to me that the DHS statements linking these "arrests" to its recent surge are intended to convey the false impression that these people were: 1) loose on the streets, and: 2) DHS had round them up and arrest them. Neither of these are true for many of those arrested.

Having said that, I have not found acccurate and complete information. It is entirely possible that quite a few criminals have been rounded up and arrested (not released to ICE by the prisons or jails).
 
GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

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Mr._Clark said:
It's not entirely clear how many people who were purportedly "arrested" recently in Minnesota were actually turned over to ICE by the DOC.

>>>The DOC said it took the "unprecedented step" of sharing surveillance footage that reportedly showed the transfer of two men into ICE custody.

This footage was taken on Jan. 12. The next day, the Department of Homeland Security shared a news release saying the two men, Meng Khong Yang and Joshua Fornoh, were arrested during Operation Metro Surge.<<<(emphasis added)

www.fox9.com

ICE in MN: Department of Corrections shows video disputing DHS account of arrests, ICE detainers

The Minnesota Department of Corrections (DOC) said the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is mischaracterizing how local authorities respond to ICE detainers, sharing video that shows a coordinated transfer of an inmate into ICE custody.
www.fox9.com www.fox9.com

>>>Every few days since Operation Metro Surge began, DHS has released lists of people it says have been arrested.

MPR News examined one of the lists shared by DHS officials on Monday, Jan. 12 and found that most of the people on the list had been immediately transferred to ICE custody at the end of time served in Minnesota prisons.

All of those transfers happened before ICE began its surge of operations in Minnesota on Dec. 1, 2025, with some even happening years before.<<<(emphasis added)


It appears to me that the DHS statements linking these "arrests" to its recent surge are intended to convey the false impression that these people were: 1) loose on the streets, and: 2) DHS had round them up and arrest them. Neither of these are true for many of those arrested.

Having said that, I have not found acccurate and complete information. It is entirely possible that quite a few criminals have been rounded up and arrested (not released to ICE by the prisons or jails).
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I suppose the lesson here is that NO statement from the administration or DHS/ICE can be taken at face value, but with a very large dump truck load of salt.
 
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