Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
As expected, some media, the conservative Bulwark.com what I saw, would check out exactly who those white South African refugees are.

One of the white refugees (Charl Kleinhaus) is MAGA, anti-semite while advocating for violence.

An interesting point is whether or not this will affect any cases in US where anti-semitism was given as cause for deportation/kicked out, given the very high level officials meeting them along with said official’s comments.

Perhaps @Mr._Clark could have a look at this?

 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Delicious: Arrested judge claims immunity with reference to Trump Supreme Court decision granting "you can put a bullet in anyone’s head and get away with it if you do it officially"!

>>>...Prosecutors allege that Dugan sought to derail the planned arrest by directing federal agents away from the hallway outside of her courtroom and escorting the migrant, identified as Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, through a non-public exit.

Dugan’s legal team has said she is innocent. On Wednesday, her lawyers asked for the indictment to be tossed out, arguing that as a judge she is immune from prosecution over official actions and that the case intrudes on state authority. [bold added]

“The government’s prosecution of Judge Dugan is virtually unprecedented and entirely unconstitutional,” her lawyers wrote in a court filing.

The case came after the U.S. Justice Department under Trump vowed to investigate local officials who impede the administration’s aggressive immigration enforcement....<<<

 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
As expected, some media, the conservative Bulwark.com what I saw, would check out exactly who those white South African refugees are.

One of the white refugees (Charl Kleinhaus) is MAGA, anti-semite while advocating for violence.

An interesting point is whether or not this will affect any cases in US where anti-semitism was given as cause for deportation/kicked out, given the very high level officials meeting them along with said official’s comments.

Perhaps @Mr._Clark could have a look at this?

Imported warriors, I would say, killers perhaps. :D Is their next stop El Salvador? :eek::mad:
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
As expected, some media, the conservative Bulwark.com what I saw, would check out exactly who those white South African refugees are.

One of the white refugees (Charl Kleinhaus) is MAGA, anti-semite while advocating for violence.

An interesting point is whether or not this will affect any cases in US where anti-semitism was given as cause for deportation/kicked out, given the very high level officials meeting them along with said official’s comments.

Perhaps @Mr._Clark could have a look at this?

The honest answer is that I'm not sure if this will affect cases in which the government argued that a person should be deported based on antisemitic beliefs.

My best guess is that it's unlikely to have a significant affect. The government has quite a bit of discretion and it can be based on numerous factors. Also, the refugee status of the south Africans is apparently based on an administration finding that they were facing persecution.

For the most part, courts decide each case based on the facts of the case, and it is my understanding that courts defer to the administration to a large degree when weighing the merits of a given case (note that this is distinct from procedural issues). I suspect it would be difficult to convince a judge that he/she should decide a deportation case in front of him/her based on facts from another case, especially given that (as far as I know) the people being deported for alleged antisemitic beliefs were not given legal status based on a fear of persecution in their home country.

Also, off hand I'm not sure who, if anyone, would have standing to file an action in court in an effort to block the South African "refugees." Without a court decision in a refuge case, it's unclear how news reports of facts concerning refugees that have not been evaluated by a court would effect a completely different deportation case in court.

Conceivably, if a judge deciding a deportation case based on alleged antisemitism knows about the antisemitic South African refugee, he/she could take a more skeptical view of the government's arguments for deportation. This is speculative though.

That's not to say the administration's decisions are well-conceived, logically consistent, etc., it's just that I have a hard time off hand seeing the refugee cases having a significant impact on the deportation cases in court.

But, again, the honest answer is that I'm not sure. Someone with more experience in this area of law might be able to give a better answer.
 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
I moved this here because it's so funny (and the truth). Boy, about the only way Republicans can recover from the Trump years is to pretend it never happened to begin with LOL. As the late Swerd once said, the hypocrisy....

 
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Dude#1279435

Audioholic Warlord
The funny thing about Trump is he rarely can do good qua good. 250th Army celebration? Odd his bday falls on the same day. Not taking his prez salary? A con. Removing illegals? No due process. Saving South Africans from their tyrannical govt? Oops they are all white.
 
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