haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
Why would you call Ukraine govt in question particularly unless you're a Putin disciple ?
Because Ukraine government managed to do ZIP with the corruption, people are suffering and the corruption is just ongoing like before, from what I hear!

I hear tons of people being unhappy with Zelenskyy because he is not changing Ukraine from the inside, in the required way ... It looks like Ukraine is never going to change in the inside, even if there is a crazy war.
 
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Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
I support Ukraine, I have Ukrainian wife ... but it is still IMHO allowed to question what is happening there. From what I hear, nothing changed in terms of corruption, I heard millions of $ going to support Ukraine has ended into corrupt hands. Maybe not the governments faults, but crazy that there are ruthless people baking their own cake while their fellow citizens are dying in a ruthless war......

Still, Zelenskyy refutes this fact, while it is obvious to people in Ukraine that money goes to corrupt hands!

My ex worked as a logistics and quality manager within an organisation in Kyiv, which purpose is to help people there. She can´t stand it anymore and quit; because what happens is crazy and there is not that sharp focus that she hoped for .... to really help people..
TankTop does not care about corruption but only as another excuse for allowing Russia to occupy Ukraine. And I agree with you that corruption in Ukraine is very bad but so it is in other Eastern countries as well.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I have seen Russians interviewed by various news outlets and independents- without knowing if the people were prepared in advance, the younger ones tended to think that things weren't good, but the older ones, often 'babushkas', thought things were fine. Not many men were available for questions or even seen in the area (public places).

Whatever we see and hear from them is what Russia wants us to see and hear, IMO.

I need to call my friend who came to the US from Ukraine in the late-'70s, for his opinion. He went back to Ukraine a few years ago and was amazed by the changes. He said it was still corrupt, though- he rented a place and was immediately told that he should move every 2-3 days because his property wouldn't be safe. Sure enough, the day after he moved each time, someone broke into the places. OTOH, he said a nice, new house of decent size could be built for less than $50K. Not sure I want to live in an empty house, but.....
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Here are the top 5 and bottom 5 countries in the freedomhouse.org Global Freedom Score ranking, with the U.S., Ukraine, and several other countries of interest (to me) inserted between the top 5 and bottom 5.

>>>Freedom House rates people’s access to political rights and civil liberties in 210 countries and territories through its annual Freedom in the World report. Individual freedoms—ranging from the right to vote to freedom of expression and equality before the law—can be affected by state or nonstate actors. . . .<<<

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As a general matter, the "Not Free" countries seem to avoid taking stands against each other. As far as I can tell, they seem to view "free" countries as enemies of their systems of government (I don't doubt that this is largely true).

I'm not sure how much weight one such ranking should be given in terms of the war in Ukraine, but the notion that the U.S. would effectively side with Russia, which is clearly near the bottom against a country (Ukraine) that is mid pack rubs me the wrong way. I'll concede that my discomfort is partly based on my belief that Ukraine has potential to improve, but I may be overly optimistic.

The fact that Eastern Donbas and Crimea are near the bottom is a clear indicator that the people living in Ukrainian territory taken by Russia will be some of the least free humans on the planet.

As an aside, kudos to my friends in Canada for the very high rating.
 
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haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
Here are the top 5 and bottom 5 countries in the freedomhouse.org Global Freedom Score ranking, with the U.S., Ukraine, and several other countries of interest (to me) inserted between the top 5 and bottom 5.

>>>Freedom House rates people’s access to political rights and civil liberties in 210 countries and territories through its annual Freedom in the World report. Individual freedoms—ranging from the right to vote to freedom of expression and equality before the law—can be affected by state or nonstate actors. . . .<<<

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As a general matter, the "Not Free" countries seem to avoid taking stands against each other. As far as I can tell, they seem to view "free" countries as enemies of their systems of government (I don't doubt that this is largely true).

I'm not sure how much weight one such ranking should be given in terms of the war in Ukraine, but the notion that the U.S. would effectively side with Russia, which is clearly near the bottom against a country (Ukraine) that is mid pack rubs me the wrong way. I'll concede that my discomfort is partly based on my belief that Ukraine has potential to improve, but I may be overly optimistic.

Crimea's rank near the bottom suggests that the people living in additional Ukrainian territory taken by Russia will be some of the least free humans on the planet.

As an aside, kudos to my friends in Canada for the very high rating.
Do you know how much money we paid in order to get so high on that anti-corruption list (Norway)? ....... ooops :D

The way it works here ... an example: I was invited to a meeting with a possible customer (huge consultant company) and was provided an offer for free concert trickets... concert after the meeting; where PJ Harvey and other star performers were there. Very attractive yes?

Well I refused even without asking management, because any such things represents more than a modest value, and as such falls into the anti-corruption / anti bribery regulations!
Possibly I could even face serious consequences in my company by accepting such an offer!
This is the normal attitude of what is expected and shown by everyone I know, in Norway!
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Do you know how much money we paid in order to get so high on that anti-corruption list (Norway)? ....... ooops :D

The way it works here ... an example: I was invited to a meeting with a possible customer (huge consultant company) and was provided an offer for free concert trickets... concert after the meeting; where PJ Harvey and other star performers were there. Very attractive yes?

Well I refused even without asking management, because any such things represents more than a modest value, and as such falls into the anti-corruption / anti bribery regulations!
Possibly I could even face serious consequences in my company by accepting such an offer!
This is the normal attitude of what is expected and shown by everyone I know, in Norway!
Interesting.

It might have been cheaper to bribe the people at Freedom House ;)
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Here are the top 5 and bottom 5 countries in the freedomhouse.org Global Freedom Score ranking, with the U.S., Ukraine, and several other countries of interest (to me) inserted between the top 5 and bottom 5.

>>>Freedom House rates people’s access to political rights and civil liberties in 210 countries and territories through its annual Freedom in the World report. Individual freedoms—ranging from the right to vote to freedom of expression and equality before the law—can be affected by state or nonstate actors. . . .<<<
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As a general matter, the "Not Free" countries seem to avoid taking stands against each other. As far as I can tell, they seem to view "free" countries as enemies of their systems of government (I don't doubt that this is largely true).

I'm not sure how much weight one such ranking should be given in terms of the war in Ukraine, but the notion that the U.S. would effectively side with Russia, which is clearly near the bottom against a country (Ukraine) that is mid pack rubs me the wrong way. I'll concede that my discomfort is partly based on my belief that Ukraine has potential to improve, but I may be overly optimistic.

The fact that Eastern Donbas and Crimea are near the bottom is a clear indicator that the people living in Ukrainian territory taken by Russia will be some of the least free humans on the planet.

As an aside, kudos to my friends in Canada for the very high rating.
Wonder when this evaluation was conducted as there is no date in the link unless I missed it.
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Do you know how much money we paid in order to get so high on that anti-corruption list (Norway)? ....... ooops :D

The way it works here ... an example: I was invited to a meeting with a possible customer (huge consultant company) and was provided an offer for free concert trickets... concert after the meeting; where PJ Harvey and other star performers were there. Very attractive yes?

Well I refused even without asking management, because any such things represents more than a modest value, and as such falls into the anti-corruption / anti bribery regulations!
Possibly I could even face serious consequences in my company by accepting such an offer!
This is the normal attitude of what is expected and shown by everyone I know, in Norway!
Here are a few snips from Freedom House on Ukraine.

>>>The Russian regime’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 led to significant deterioration in the political rights and civil liberties enjoyed by Ukrainians. The numerical scores and status listed here do not reflect conditions in the previously occupied Ukrainian territories of Crimea and Eastern Donbas, which are examined in separate reports. . . .

The Russian armed forces launched an all-out invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, inflicting massive civilian and military casualties and destroying civilian infrastructure. . . . Russian troops have engaged in extrajudicial executions, torture, and sexual violence against local residents. . . .

International observers deemed the election [in 2019] competitive and credible, although polling could not take place in Crimea and Eastern Donbas. . . .

In November 2023, Zelenskyy announced that the parliamentary elections originally due that year would not be held while the country remained under martial law and in a state of war. While the decision drew some criticism, a poll by the International Republican Institute found that nearly two-thirds of respondents supported postponing elections until after the war’s end. Experts pointed out that elections held under current conditions would pose significant security risks for citizens and could not be conducted in occupied areas, and that millions of Ukrainian refugees abroad, IDPs, and soldiers on the front line would likely be excluded in practice. . . .

The TVK generally administers elections professionally. However, the mixed electoral system for the parliament that governed past polls, including the most recent parliamentary elections in 2019, was criticized as prone to manipulation and vote buying. . . . Martial law prohibits calling and holding elections or referendums at both the national and local levels as long as it remains in effect. . . . Prior to the 2022 invasion, with the exception of a ban on the Communist Party, there were no formal barriers to the creation and operation of political parties in Ukraine. However, in May 2022, Zelenskyy signed a law banning political parties that justify, recognize as legitimate, or deny Russian aggression against Ukraine. . . .

Zelensky’s ruling party currently holds most political power. However, Ukrainian politics have long featured dynamic competition. Opposition groups are represented in the parliament, and their political activities are generally not impeded by administrative restrictions or legal harassment.

Under a 2022 presidential decree, Ukraine’s main news channels broadcast only government-approved content and give airtime predominantly to ruling-party representatives, limiting opposition parties’ avenues for exposure. . . .

Powerful Ukrainian business magnates, commonly referred to as oligarchs, exert significant influence over politics both directly and indirectly, including through financial support for political parties and lobbying for the appointment of loyalists to key institutional positions. However, individuals defined as oligarchs under a 2021 law have been prohibited from funding political parties. . . .

Corruption remains a serious problem, and political will to fight it has been inconsistent. Anticorruption agencies have repeatedly been ensnared in politically fraught conflicts with other state entities and elected officials.

Despite the severe disruption to governance caused by the 2022 full-scale invasion, authorities have been able to push through improvements to the country’s anticorruption apparatus and open significant investigations. . . .

Poor government transparency has long helped to facilitate corruption, and transparency has declined as a result of the ongoing war and martial law. . . .

The retreat of Russian troops from towns in the Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Kherson Oblasts, among other areas, revealed mounting evidence of Russian war crimes, including targeted executions, rape, and torture of Ukrainian civilians. . . .

The constitution guarantees freedoms of speech and expression, and libel is not a criminal offense. Prior to 2022, the media landscape featured considerable pluralism and open criticism of the government and powerful figures. However, a number of Russian outlets were banned, and business magnates owned and influenced many outlets. . . .

A week after Moscow launched the full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Ukrainian lawmakers, in the absence of meaningful public comment, amended the criminal code to expand grounds for collaborationism charges to include public denial of Russian aggression, glorification of Russia, and insulting the honor and dignity of Ukrainian soldiers. . . .

The constitution guarantees the right to peaceful assembly but requires organizers to give the authorities advance notice of demonstrations. . . . Martial law enacted after the full-scale invasion restricted the constitutional guarantee of freedom of assembly. . . . Civil society organizations are required to disclose their ultimate beneficiaries and ownership structure under money-laundering legislation; leaders of many groups have characterized this as interference in their work. . . .

Ukraine has long suffered from corrupt and politicized courts, and reform initiatives meant to address the issue have often stalled or fallen short of expectations. However, despite the ongoing war, authorities have implemented some recent improvements. . . . The government has taken steps to scale back regulation of private businesses in recent years, though the business environment is affected by widespread corruption. . . .<<<


I would sum up their comments on Russia as "It's a sh*t show."

>>>Power in Russia’s authoritarian political system is concentrated in the hands of President Vladimir Putin. With subservient courts and security forces, a controlled media environment, and a legislature consisting of a ruling party and pliable opposition factions, the Kremlin manipulates elections and suppresses genuine opposition. Rampant corruption facilitates shifting links among state officials and organized crime groups. Since the regime launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, authorities have intensified restrictions on individual rights and liberties in order to stifle domestic dissent. <<<

 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
I am completely disgusted again about the attitudes of US government, now the US government representative Keith Kellogg is in Kyiv and his main goal is to get an agreement that gives the US access to a large portion of mineral resources of Ukraine, as a requirement of trying to end the war.
- Source: NRK TV, Norway

If Zelenskyy does not agree, Musk and Trump will disable Starlink across all of Ukraine, and Starlink is how the Ukraine forces communicate...... WTF :mad: o_O:eek::mad:o_O
 
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Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
Here's one (presumed) response:

>>French President Emmanuel Macron is convening European leaders for an emergency summit in Paris on Monday.<<

US is increasingly viewed as unreliable and the German leader of the Christian Democrats (likely the next Chancellor, going by polls) wants nuclear weapons. I expect other countries like Poland, South Korea, Japan and Taiwan are thinking about getting their own nuclear weapons as well.

To some of the posters here denying the obvious: Yes, words uttered by an US President have consequences.

>>>Europe's politicians are openly discussing how they could tackle the threat of nuclear attack without American help, in a dramatic sign of the deep crisis engulfing the transatlantic alliance under Donald Trump.

In what would be a huge shift in position, the runaway favorite to be Germany’s next leader said the continent must find new ways to defend itself without the U.S. military underpinning its nuclear protection through NATO.
Friedrich Merz, whom polls suggest is on course to become chancellor after Sunday’s German elections, said his country would need to look beyond the U.S. to Britain and France for nuclear safeguards. Under Trump, he said, America could no longer be relied on.

“We need to have discussions with both the British and the French — the two European nuclear powers — about whether nuclear sharing, or at least nuclear security from the U.K. and France, could also apply to us,” Merz said.
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“We must prepare for the possibility that Donald Trump will no longer uphold NATO’s mutual defense commitment unconditionally,” Merz said in an interview with German broadcaster ZDF. “That is why, in my view, it is crucial that Europeans make the greatest possible efforts to ensure that we are at least capable of defending the European continent on our own.” ...<<<

 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
That Trump voter going in here now stating that:
When Biden was president, my insulin bill for 24 days of supplies was $6, now it went up to $80 because of the medicare recovery act was cancelled..... way to go Trump to make America better again o_O

 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
That Trump voter going in here now stating that:
When Biden was president, my insulin bill for 24 days of supplies was $6, now it went up to $80 because of the medicare recovery act was cancelled..... way to go Trump to make America better again o_O

I must admit to a little schadenfreude and thinks that the Trump voters gets what they deserve.
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
I must admit to a little schadenfreude and thinks that the Trump voters gets what they deserve.
Of course they do .... many of them IMHO just didn´t have the brain capacity to understand what they voted for
And as a thanks.... many hundreds of thousands of Trump voters will lose their jobs, some of them I guess lose their future, maybe end up sleeping on the street...

It´s just that the effects of what happens also affects the world at large!
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
The competence of the Trump administration: I heard today a Trump official stating that they cut $8 billion in cost .... and then, oh no sorry, there was a calculation mistake, the correct figure i $8 million :D

Reassuring: the finance guys does not know the difference between a million and a billion!
 
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nicoleise

Junior Audioholic
I saw a video randomly in my LinkedIn feed yesterday (before anything had reached us here about "50% or Starlink gets it") supposedly showing an interview that had aired on Russian state controlled TV. I have no way of establish whether the video is real or fake. So while concerning, at first I did not think much of it. But is Trump actually now acting out this "script"?

LinkedIn post with video

I can only go by subtitles obviously, but the interview roughly transcribes as:

As soon as Zelinski rejects the agreements that will be reached, this will untie our and the American's hands.

We only need three things from the Americans.

Obviously, to stop financial and military aid to Ukraine. Secondly, to turn off Starlink and thirdly stop giving them (intelligence) data from the satellites.

That's it. That's it. After that, we will go like a knife into butter and all this Banderite scum will be cleared out within a few months.


I'm noticing that he's talking about a deal between the US and Russia in the future tense, likely based on the meeting in Saudi Arabia.

And the way he's talking about it suggests that the goal isn't negotiations for peace, but rather to construct an unacceptable deal in order to give the US an excuse to help Russia in the conflict.

I think it will be "interesting" to see which events will follow. I didn't really make much of the video originally, but seeing the next day that Trump is making outrageous claims against the Ukraine and threatening specifically to turn off Starlink seem rather concerning in this context.
 

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