On Trump

[mtrycrafts]

Before telling me to "stop spreading absolute lies" you should educate yourself how that exception works out in practice.

So here is a Texan woman that died because the doctors delayed treating her miscarriage for 40 hours. The quote is a summarization of a ProPublica article. Read both.

>>>Just days after Texas banned abortion past six weeks of pregnancy, a woman died after doctors in the state delayed treating her miscarriage for 40 hours, ProPublica reported on Wednesday.

Experts told ProPublica that the September 2021 death of Josseli Barnica, a 28-year-old mother, was “preventable”. Barnica is the third woman reported by ProPublica to have died in recent years after being unable to access abortion legally or having her medical care delayed.

Although US abortion bans – which more than a dozen states have enacted in the two years since the supreme court overturned Roe v Wade – technically permit the procedure in medical emergencies, doctors across the country have said that the laws are worded so vaguely that they don’t know when they can legally intervene. Instead, many physicians say they have been forced to wait until a patient is on the brink of death – then attempt to pull them back. ... <<<

Texas woman died after being denied miscarriage care due to abortion ban, report finds

Josseli Barnica died days state passed six-week abortion ban and doctors delayed treatment, ProPublica reports

www.theguardian.com

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

Let's add some more:
Under Georgia’s Abortion Ban, She Died After Delayed Care — ProPublica

Nevaeh Crain died during a miscarriage after trying to get care in Texas hospitals | The Texas Tribune

 

[mtrycrafts]

2nd day this T person is at abandoned Burger King hawking the new emperors stuff
SE Michigan.
That barrier is up to keep kids outta the lot


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Just the beginning.

 

[TankTop5]

Let's add some more:
Under Georgia’s Abortion Ban, She Died After Delayed Care — ProPublica

Nevaeh Crain died during a miscarriage after trying to get care in Texas hospitals | The Texas Tribune

That’s horrible! Dr’s are scared but it will get litigated and changes will be made as to how the law is interpreted. As terrible as it is, it is definitely not the first or last time someone will die due to a new medical law or policy. Pointing to a single case (actually there have been 2 now) doesn’t prove your point but it does make the case that changes need to be made as to how a law in enforced.

 

[mtrycrafts]

That’s horrible! Dr’s are scared but it will get litigated and changes will be made as to how the law is interpreted. As terrible as it is, it is definitely not the first or last time someone will die due to a new medical law or policy. Pointing to a single case (actually there have been 2 now) doesn’t prove your point but it does make the case that changes need to be made as to how a law in enforced.

Well it is hard to find the cases, not because there are no more but other reasons. Interesting that all the cases are from very restrictive states.

 

[TankTop5]

Well it is hard to find the cases, not because there are no more but other reasons. Interesting that all the cases are from very restrictive states.

It’s probably difficult to find because there aren’t many, the sensitivity of the issue will have any deaths shouted from the rooftops. Doctors are pretty good about rendering emergency medical care when needed, that said we kill tens of thousands in America due to laws, regulations and policies.

 

[Trell]

It’s probably difficult to find because there aren’t many, the sensitivity of the issue will have any deaths shouted from the rooftops. Doctors are pretty good about rendering emergency medical care when needed, that said we kill tens of thousands in America due to laws, regulations and policies.

So why care about pregnant women dying in protracted agony for days during a miscarriage?

As you wrote earlier the newly orphaned children can just sue and this will be resolved in the court system.

You don’t have any children yourself, do you?

Will the following quote just make you shrug and say "So what"? It's from the link @mtrycrafts posted earlier, which I doubt you read.

>>>Candace Fails screamed for someone in the Texas hospital to help her pregnant daughter. “Do something,” she pleaded, on the morning of Oct. 29, 2023.

Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before.

The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.

Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.

By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.

Hours later, she was dead. ...<<<

A pregnant teenager died after trying to get care in three visits to Texas emergency rooms

It took 20 hours and three ER visits before doctors admitted the pregnant 18-year-old to the hospital as her condition worsened. She’s one of at least two women who died under Texas’ abortion ban.

www.texastribune.org

 

[Dude#1279435]

Think it was this image that left a comical imprint in my mind of what right news is. It's I think why Trump has invited Musk over and on the phone call with Zelensky. He isn't in any way significant like say a politician with experience, but he did help flood the zone with more garbage via X LOL. I do believe the left contributed to distrust, but the game plan was to marginalize and replace them with crap.

The Media’s Identity Crisis

Legacy media must compete against a choose-your-own-adventure reality.

www.theatlantic.com

>>>“You are the media now.” That’s the message that began to cohere among right-wing influencers shortly after Donald Trump won the election this week. Elon Musk first posted the phrase, and others followed. “The legacy media is dead. Hollywood is done. Truth telling is in. No more complaining about the media,” the right-wing activist James O’Keefe posted shortly after. “You are the media.”

It’s a particularly effective message for Musk, who spent $44 billion to purchase a communications platform that he has harnessed to undermine existing media institutions and directly support Trump’s campaign. QAnon devotees also know the phrase as a rallying cry, an invitation to participate in a particular kind of citizen “journalism” that involves just asking questions and making stuff up altogether.

“You are the media now” is also a good message because, well, it might be true.

A defining quality of this election cycle has been that few people seem to be able to agree on who constitutes “the media,” what their role ought to be, or even how much influence they have in 2024. Based on Trump and Kamala Harris’s appearances on various shows—and especially Trump and J. D. Vance’s late-race interviews with Joe Rogan, which culminated in the popular host’s endorsement—some have argued that this was the “podcast election.” But there’s broad confusion over what actually moves the needle. Is the press the bulwark against fascism, or is it ignored by a meaningful percentage of the country? It is certainly beleaguered by a conservative effort to undermine media institutions, with Trump as its champion and the fracturing caused by algorithmic social media. It can feel existential at times competing for attention and reckoning with the truth that many Americans don’t read, trust, or really care all that much about what papers, magazines, or cable news have to say.

All of this contributes to a well-documented, slow-moving crisis of legacy media—a cocktail whose ingredients also include declining trust, bad economics, political pressure, vulture capitalists, the rise of the internet, and no shortage of coverage decisions from mainstream institutions that have alienated or infuriated some portion of their audiences. Each and every one of these things affected how Americans experienced this election, though it is impossible to say what the impact is in aggregate. If “you are the media,” then there is no longer a consensus reality informed by what audiences see and hear: Everyone chooses their own adventure.<<<

 

[highfigh]

Just saw a video where a girl buy a Honneycrisp (moneycrisp) apple from Whole Foods (whole paycheck. It was just over $7 for a single apple. Obviously you can get apples for less elsewhere but seven dollars for a flipping apple is insanity. I regularly go to the grocery store and get two bags of groceries for over $100. Prices are beyond mind-boggling right now and if anyone says inflation is only 3% they are absolutely lying.

For $7, it was probably organic- where I shop, they might be $2.99-$3.49/lb, but there's enough variety that spending a lot isn't necessary. I use the 12.5 oz bag of Fritos as an example when someone says that inflation isn't bad- I think $5.79 ON SALE is a bit steep for those.

 

[highfigh]

Before telling me to "stop spreading absolute lies" you should educate yourself how that exception works out in practice.

So here is a Texan woman that died because the doctors delayed treating her miscarriage for 40 hours. The quote is a summarization of a ProPublica article. Read both.

>>>Just days after Texas banned abortion past six weeks of pregnancy, a woman died after doctors in the state delayed treating her miscarriage for 40 hours, ProPublica reported on Wednesday.

Experts told ProPublica that the September 2021 death of Josseli Barnica, a 28-year-old mother, was “preventable”. Barnica is the third woman reported by ProPublica to have died in recent years after being unable to access abortion legally or having her medical care delayed.

Although US abortion bans – which more than a dozen states have enacted in the two years since the supreme court overturned Roe v Wade – technically permit the procedure in medical emergencies, doctors across the country have said that the laws are worded so vaguely that they don’t know when they can legally intervene. Instead, many physicians say they have been forced to wait until a patient is on the brink of death – then attempt to pull them back. ... <<<

Texas woman died after being denied miscarriage care due to abortion ban, report finds

Josseli Barnica died days state passed six-week abortion ban and doctors delayed treatment, ProPublica reports

www.theguardian.com

A Texas Woman Died After Waiting 40 Hours for Miscarriage Care

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.

www.propublica.org

You were referring to abortion, this example is a miscarriage- very different situations.

 

[highfigh]

Some of the funnier ones on Good Liars-

Where they ask a guy if Trump lost the '20 election? Wow, you're like the first person we've interviewed who have acknowledged this.

Guy says the Dems should tone down the rhetoric but is wearing a "Let's Go Brandon!" shirt.

On the televangelists, despite all their questionable ethics, says religion is a business and ya gotta make bread. Young person, but the way she said it with such energy and conviction.

You would prefer that he wear the original version, "Eff Off Biden"?

 

[highfigh]

Wasn't that miss named and should have been the bubonic plague?

50 million dead is funny to you?

 

[highfigh]

"The USA has more to lose here than western Europe."

More to lose? have you seen/read the news lately? With most of the Outsourcing that most industries do in this country including audio gear, speakers. GM, Ford, Chrysler. Let's not mention most/all televisions use to be manufactured in this country try buying a US made TV now. Does Nafta ring a bell? Shady J James? I get your comment most of it. Take this Analogy, (With a grain of salt) the middle finger was used by those who were going into Battlefields of Medieval times. Its meaning than, isn't what it is today. That middle finger has been Urbanized (slang) to show, F off at someone. The true meaning was to show the middle finger as to ward-off the evil that the Opposing army was getting ready to inflict on its women and children or them.

The USA stands better by bringing it All back for All of this Nations Citizens. Won't be easy, many are Suffering now, our political leaders have passed decisions poor ones. Isn't it always about the money. Everything is open to Interpretation. Especially Politically, parties? be one-two or many.

The brands in the link are made in the US, but they're not the familiar ones. SunBrite and Seura are made specifically for outdoor use, the others are made to be cheap. The first two are anything BUT cheap. FoxConn may eventually make the 'Not Made In the US' argument go away to some degree.

List of TVs made in America (updated in 2025) - StreamDiag

Here's a full list of TVs that are made in America. If you are looking to own an American-made TV, here are options to choose from.

streamdiag.com

 

[Trell]

You were referring to abortion, this example is a miscarriage- very different situations.

Perhaps work a little more on your English comprehension, or lack of it?

Here is is a relevant post of mine on this subject and was posted yesterday/today (depending where you live) and from there you can begin reading:

>>>Well, anti-abortion states where women dies because they are denied care in case of a miscarriage or other health issues. Or forced to carry a pregnancy to term even if raped. Anti-abortion states in general, really.<<<

 

[Dude#1279435]

You would prefer that he wear the original version, "Eff Off Biden"?

That's what Let's Go Brandon means.

 

[Trell]

That's what Let's Go Brandon means.

That dude is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[highfigh]

Seems if you are producing a better product it's because your engineering is better. If say Toyota is more/the most reliable car, it's because of their engineering. Well quality of parts to build. You'd have to show somewhere in the pipeline the US are not getting a good enough deal on raw materials. Or that the raw materials we have or ship in are not of the same quality as Asia.

Also that Asia just might be kicking our ass in the workforce. Though I imagine that's not something we want to hear.

The US imports a helluva lot of steel and Aluminum and it hasn't always been top quality. The US used to have robust steel and Aluminum industries, but they have dwindled.

 

[Trell]

The US imports a helluva lot of steel and Aluminum and it hasn't always been top quality. The US used to have robust steel and Aluminum industries, but they have dwindled.

Sweden is producing speciality steel that in the end was exempted from the first round of Trump steel tariffs in 2018, and that kind of steel was never produced in USA as far as I know.

 

[highfigh]

That's what Let's Go Brandon means.

No poop. "Let's go..." is hardly comparable to what has been said about Trump and let's look at the reason the ones who originally told Biden it was 'Let's Go Brandon'- why did they feel that was necessary? Also, he has spouted comments about violence to others, so that's OK, now?.

 

[Trell]

No poop. "Let's go..." is hardly comparable to what has been said about Trump and let's look at the reason the ones who originally told Biden it was 'Let's Go Brandon'- why did they feel that was necessary? Also, he has spouted comments about violence to others, so that's OK, now?.

Is TankTop5 your alternate account? Asking for a friend.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Is TankTop5 your alternate account? Asking for a friend.

No.