Okay... narrowing down my choices for front mains

3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
It certainly looks like I just need to hear some of these speakers. How do you go about finding local people that have any of these makes and models? I live in the Cincinnati area.
What I would do is to take a pad of paper with you, write down the make and
model of each speaker you audition and what you liked and disliked about the
speakers you were auditioning. Was the bass tight and deep or was it boomy and loose sounding? Were the mids life like or were they hollow or just too pronounced? Was the treble irritating and harsh or were they dark and not revealing or were they smooththat made you want to listen for more? How was the imaging?

Bring music with you that you are very familiar with and know quite well. To
make it easier to audition HT speaker systems, listen to the main speakers in 2
channel mode with music. Music is much harder to reproduce accurately then a movie soundtrack so if the speakers do well with music, then they will do well with HT. Speakers that do HT well may not do well with music. When auditioning the center channel of the same brand and series as the main speakers, pick a difficult source like an announcer that mumbles alot. If you can understand what the mumbling announcer is saying, then you have a good center channel.

I would go to speciality stores first and start auditioning speakers first
instead of going to the internet first. Once your likes are determined, you can
mention them here and fellow members can make internet brand recommendations based on your likes/dislikes. The specality stores are better setup acousticaly then the big box stores which will make auditioning a little easier. It will give you an idea of what you like in a speaker.

Keep track of what amp or receiver is powering the speakers you're auditioning. Try to get a receiver/amp that closest resembles what you have or want to get. It just reduces another variable when audtioning speakers.


One thing to keep note off. When auditioning speakers, make sure the volume
levels are matched between the diiferent speaker pairs because the louder
speaker pair will always sound better. Listen to levels that you think you
would listen to most of the time because thats how you are going to be using
them most of the time.
 
bluezman32

bluezman32

Audioholic Intern
Bluezman32.. How's the auditioning going?
Sent some messages to some folks on some other forums that were advertising for people to demo their speakers, but I haven't had anyone return the messages yet.

We recently sold our house and moved to a much smaller rental, so I am trying to balance budget, quality, proper size of the system I buy for the place I am going to live in for the next year.

I am trying to keep whatever 2.1 system I put together no more than $800. That is either two bookshelf mains, center channel, and a small sub... or... two good floorstanders (that produce enough bass to forgo the sub for now) and a good center channel.

I think it really is going to come down to ordering stuff and auditioning it with my stuff in my house.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
I have been looking at all options, but to be honest, while the size and price of "compact" speakers are appealing, I am having some serious reservations about how any of these systems will sound.
Compared to these



or these



:eek:

IMO always get the best mains that you can afford with your budget, and build from there. You can run a "Phantom Center" for now. And save for the appropriate subwoofer. Half the fun of this hobby (if it's a hobby for you) is taking your time and building your system.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Sent some messages to some folks on some other forums that were advertising for people to demo their speakers, but I haven't had anyone return the messages yet.

We recently sold our house and moved to a much smaller rental, so I am trying to balance budget, quality, proper size of the system I buy for the place I am going to live in for the next year.

I am trying to keep whatever 2.1 system I put together no more than $800. That is either two bookshelf mains, center channel, and a small sub... or... two good floorstanders (that produce enough bass to forgo the sub for now) and a good center channel.

I think it really is going to come down to ordering stuff and auditioning it with my stuff in my house.

The T45s will do bass for most music, especially blues. They just don't do the throbbing deep down bass of rap or the pipe organ. Now depending on the room your putting them in and how symetrical your seating is with respect to the speakers, you could forgo the center channel as well as the T45s really image well. I've heard Paradigms Monitor series and Axiom M60s and the T45s throw a better image. I stronlgy suggest that you give these an audition if you can. They are that good a speaker not to. Please see my post in this thread about how to audition speakers as well. :) Good luck.
 
bluezman32

bluezman32

Audioholic Intern
Compared to these



or these



:eek:

IMO always get the best mains that you can afford with your budget, and build from there. You can run a "Phantom Center" for now. And save for the appropriate subwoofer. Half the fun of this hobby (if it's a hobby for you) is taking your time and building your system.
I may not need a sub with the 6.1s. No?
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
I may not need a sub with the 6.1s. No?
For 2 channel music listening. You can get away without a sub. But IMO for HT a subwoofer is a must.

I waited 1 year before I purchased my subwoofer for my system. So it's not like you have to run out today and get one.

But I also "Double Dog Dare" you to. :eek:

 
roidefromage

roidefromage

Enthusiast
One Word:

Axiom!

In my humble opinion there isn't speaker on th market in their orice range that delivers as much amazing sound and quality.:)
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Axiom!

In my humble opinion there isn't speaker on th market in their orice range that delivers as much amazing sound and quality.:)
I've auditioned them before but they did not have the sound that appealed to me. Speaker selection is so subjective. :)
 
F

fredk

Audioholic General
Must be the lack of oxygen in Colorado.
Nah, his M80s are still shiny and new. He'll be OK when he comes up for air. ;)

3db I would love to a/b the PSB 45/55 vs something from Axiom. They both measure very well in an anechoic chamber.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Nah, his M80s are still shiny and new. He'll be OK when he comes up for air. ;)

3db I would love to a/b the PSB 45/55 vs something from Axiom. They both measure very well in an anechoic chamber.
Axiom makes awesome speakers. I just didn't like their treble as much as the PSBs. In this stituation, it was strictly user preference that made me go with the PSBs.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
In this stituation, it was strictly user preference that made me go with the PSBs.
And now he's just blinded by FANBOYISM. :eek: LOL But there is help available.

 
B

Bluesmoke

Audioholic Chief
Here's a simple advice, if you can't decide, go with the speakers in your price range that LOOKS the best to you. Looks matter as well.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
The T45s will do bass for most music, especially blues. They just don't do the throbbing deep down bass of rap or the pipe organ. Now depending on the room your putting them in and how symetrical your seating is with respect to the speakers, you could forgo the center channel as well as the T45s really image well. I've heard Paradigms Monitor series and Axiom M60s and the T45s throw a better image. I stronlgy suggest that you give these an audition if you can. They are that good a speaker not to. Please see my post in this thread about how to audition speakers as well. :) Good luck.
The PSB Image series do a stellar job at imaging. The Image 60 center channel is just astounding. The T45's with a capable sub will do wonders.
I auditioned them back about 18-24 months ago against Paradigm and Mirage for my business partners home theater.

Again the Paradigms sounded bloated/boomy and the Mirage sound boxed in. The PSB's sounded like they simply had room to breath. Very easy and detailed.

The scene in 'Brother Where Art Thou' with the train tracks and man car was just revealing of the nuance they are able to project.

There you go, my 2 cents.
 
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