New speaker + Salesman recommendation

lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
http://www.audioholics.com/education/loudspeaker-basics/speaker-break-in-fact-or-fiction

Please read the above article before believing that nonsense. Furthermore unless something has verified something scientificly in the audio field don't believe them. It saves time and money.

What is Break-In?
Break-in is generally the time it takes for you to tolerate the imperfections of your speakers. For example now that I've listened to my speakers for over 2 months I enjoy them far more than I did the third time I listened to them. I built them myself so I discount the first two times as the joy of being done.

Most people will never buy or build reference speakers because it's a lot of work or money. So get used to the fact you will need to give yourself time to adjust to your speakers.

IOTW Your speakers are your master and you are their puppy.

How to break in your speakers

The best way to break in speakers is to watch your favorite movies and listen to your favorite music while drinking your favorite beverage. :)

While playing them 24/7 might keep burglars out I'd be very concerned about continously using your voice coils that long. You don't want to wear out your speakers too early.

Finally you need a new place to shop. Salesman spoutting those kinds of things will steer you the wrong direction.

Oh yeah get off the forum and back to listening!!
 
B

Boerd

Full Audioholic
http://www.audioholics.com/education/loudspeaker-basics/speaker-break-in-fact-or-fiction

Please read the above article before believing that nonsense. Furthermore unless something has verified something scientificly in the audio field don't believe them. It saves time and money.

What is Break-In?
Break-in is generally the time it takes for you to tolerate the imperfections of your speakers. For example now that I've listened to my speakers for over 2 months I enjoy them far more than I did the third time I listened to them. I built them myself so I discount the first two times as the joy of being done.

Most people will never buy or build reference speakers because it's a lot of work or money. So get used to the fact you will need to give yourself time to adjust to your speakers.

IOTW Your speakers are your master and you are their puppy.

How to break in your speakers

The best way to break in speakers is to watch your favorite movies and listen to your favorite music while drinking your favorite beverage. :)

While playing them 24/7 might keep burglars out I'd be very concerned about continously using your voice coils that long. You don't want to wear out your speakers too early.

Finally you need a new place to shop. Salesman spoutting those kinds of things will steer you the wrong direction.

Oh yeah get off the forum and back to listening!!
I often do that and I'll keep doing it. It seems my speakers never break in - every time I try, after 2 beers they sound the same and I have to start all over :):):)
 
braminator

braminator

Junior Audioholic
I often do that and I'll keep doing it. It seems my speakers never break in - every time I try, after 2 beers they sound the same and I have to start all over
LOL:D

I am glad we all can just enjoy the music.
 
pzaur

pzaur

Audioholic Samurai
If "break-in" were real, it'd be able to be measured. Those who believe in it are suggesting that the waveform (sound) changes because there is an audible difference. If this is true it would show up in a comparison of waveforms of the initial playing and a later playing of the exact same recording.

Simple logic. I don't believe anyone has ever proved that break-in exists or is real. Show me that Loch Ness Monster!

-pat
 
ozmedia

ozmedia

Audioholic
Break-in yes, but facing and playing at low volume?

Its not the break-in part, it was the facing the speakers to each other part...

IMO speaker "breakin" is probably only minutes not hours. It's just the individual needs to get used to the sound, let it sink into them for a bit.

But thats just IMO...obviously many others have opposite feelings.
Break in time depends on the speaker itself. Materials such as butyl rubber are soft and flexible but do need to work out and loosen up ad they will become more sup[ple and responsive. aluminum, fibreglass, polygraphites etc. all flex to a certain degree and will change in tone over time. Pretty much anything manufactured will loosen and soften with use, electronic or not.

I find that with the speakers we provide, the manufacturer recommended break in of 15 hours is okay but I do find they have sweeter response and a more natural and smoother sounding upper midrange after a solid few days.

However the facing them toward is other is like recommending Oxygen Free Monster cable from planet Krypton. Some people will buy into it and to it, others will just have a laff. :D
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Obviously, you can see that those who have posted so far don't believe in speaker break-in and I respect their position. I am of the opposite camp, and personally believe that 75-100 hours of play before doing any serious listening is of value. Speaker cones are made up of a variety of materials that twist and flex due to vibration. Over the 75-100 hours this does stretch the materials. I do this in one shot over 4-5 days 24/7. Therefore, if the speakers develop a problem it is still within the store's return policy.

Car engines need to be broken in, and gas mileage does go up after 2-3k miles. It only seems logical that a speaker cone would respond in much the same way by improving its sound.

It is easy for me as I travel a fair amount for my job. I have the speakers playing at about 75db in my basement playing off of a pc music server. When I've come back, they are ready to go. I should mention that I assist fellow parishioners (some would consider it a mega church) with their audio purchases and average about 4-6 break-in periods per year.

Just my .02 cents.
It would be interesting to see some experimental data to support your hypothesis on this for speakers.

And how do they break in car engines? How about those race car engines? Yes, of course;)
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.audio.high-end/browse_thread/thread/201143d330145d6c/7d26f5cc57ffd849?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=author:DPierce@world.std.com+and+speaker+break+in

Check out Richard Pierce's comments towards the bottom.:rolleyes:

And, from another of his posts:
BUT! (and pity the poor sap that takes the above out of context, I'll nail
you for sure), ALL of those changes will completely recover if the speaker
is left alone for a few minutes. Go back and you will find that, in fact,
the speaker behaves just as it did BEFORE the "break in" period. The effct
is totally reversable and completely repeatable, again shril prtests to
the contrary notwithstanding.
 
R-Carpenter

R-Carpenter

Audioholic
Ice, voice coils don't actually rub on anything so I wouldn't worry about using speakers for 24 hours. If they do, your speakers is already broken.... not in just plain broken. :D
But you probably talking about overheating voice coils. If the speaker is designed properly with this issue in mind, it will not happen.
Cheers.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Ice, voice coils don't actually rub on anything so I wouldn't worry about using speakers for 24 hours. If they do, your speakers is already broken.... not in just plain broken. :D
But you probably talking about overheating voice coils. If the speaker is designed properly with this issue in mind, it will not happen.
Cheers.
Probably not, but we don't buy our speaker for the crickets either.

:D

And you are always wearing out everything because every product has a life cycle. Engineering 101. :)
 
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