New speaker + Salesman recommendation

[sanmoreau]

Hi,

I just bought a new pair of Klipsch RF-62, and the salesman told me to face the speakers one in front of the other very close, and put any music in a low volume so the mechanisms inside get loose, before I try them with high volumes. He said that by doing this I will make sure I wont break my speaker in the long term. Is that true??

thanks

Santi

 

[Matt34]

Hi,

I just bought a new pair of Klipsch RF-62, and the salesman told me to face the speakers one in front of the other very close, and put any music in a low volume so the mechanisms inside get loose, before I try them with high volumes. He said that by doing this I will make sure I wont break my speaker in the long term. Is that true??

thanks

Santi

Turn them on and enjoy.

 

[m_vanmeter]

and did this particular "saleman" walk around with a shiny aluminum hat on, wear a belt and suspenders, and have a part time job selling ginzu knives on the weekend ?

Play them and enjoy !

 

[R-Carpenter]

I like the Fat Free one. Nice answer!

 

[bigred7078]

Wooooooow lol

 

[markw]

Did the salesman also say you should do this until the day after the return period?

 

[just listening]

Obviously, you can see that those who have posted so far don't believe in speaker break-in and I respect their position. I am of the opposite camp, and personally believe that 75-100 hours of play before doing any serious listening is of value. Speaker cones are made up of a variety of materials that twist and flex due to vibration. Over the 75-100 hours this does stretch the materials. I do this in one shot over 4-5 days 24/7. Therefore, if the speakers develop a problem it is still within the store's return policy.

Car engines need to be broken in, and gas mileage does go up after 2-3k miles. It only seems logical that a speaker cone would respond in much the same way by improving its sound.

It is easy for me as I travel a fair amount for my job. I have the speakers playing at about 75db in my basement playing off of a pc music server. When I've come back, they are ready to go. I should mention that I assist fellow parishioners (some would consider it a mega church) with their audio purchases and average about 4-6 break-in periods per year.

Just my .02 cents.

 

[Warpdrv]

Turn them on and enjoy.

HAHAHHAHAHAH

I nearly wet my pants on that sight..

Good one....

 

[MinusTheBear]

What the salesman told you to do is nonsense and a waste of time.

Just set them up and start enjoying the music.

 

[bigred7078]

Obviously, you can see that those who have posted so far don't believe in speaker break-in and I respect their position. I am of the opposite camp, and personally believe that 75-100 hours of play before doing any serious listening is of value. Speaker cones are made up of a variety of materials that twist and flex due to vibration. Over the 75-100 hours this does stretch the materials. I do this in one shot over 4-5 days 24/7. Therefore, if the speakers develop a problem it is still within the store's return policy.

Car engines need to be broken in, and gas mileage does go up after 2-3k miles. It only seems logical that a speaker cone would respond in much the same way by improving its sound.

It is easy for me as I travel a fair amount for my job. I have the speakers playing at about 75db in my basement playing off of a pc music server. When I've come back, they are ready to go. I should mention that I assist fellow parishioners (some would consider it a mega church) with their audio purchases and average about 4-6 break-in periods per year.

Just my .02 cents.

Its not the break-in part, it was the facing the speakers to each other part...

IMO speaker "breakin" is probably only minutes not hours. It's just the individual needs to get used to the sound, let it sink into them for a bit.

But thats just IMO...obviously many others have opposite feelings.

 

[bandphan]

Obviously, you can see that those who have posted so far don't believe in speaker break-in and I respect their position. I am of the opposite camp, and personally believe that 75-100 hours of play before doing any serious listening is of value. Speaker cones are made up of a variety of materials that twist and flex due to vibration. Over the 75-100 hours this does stretch the materials. I do this in one shot over 4-5 days 24/7. Therefore, if the speakers develop a problem it is still within the store's return policy.

Car engines need to be broken in, and gas mileage does go up after 2-3k miles. It only seems logical that a speaker cone would respond in much the same way by improving its sound.

It is easy for me as I travel a fair amount for my job. I have the speakers playing at about 75db in my basement playing off of a pc music server. When I've come back, they are ready to go. I should mention that I assist fellow parishioners (some would consider it a mega church) with their audio purchases and average about 4-6 break-in periods per year.

Just my .02 cents.

As red stated, its not break in, but breaking he was refering to and most manufactures that I know recommend that break in be done at moderate volumes. The salesman was just trying to baffle him with bulls*** that even he didnt understand.

 

[Boerd]

Hi,

I just bought a new pair of Klipsch RF-62, and the salesman told me to face the speakers one in front of the other very close, and put any music in a low volume so the mechanisms inside get loose, before I try them with high volumes. He said that by doing this I will make sure I wont break my speaker in the long term. Is that true??

thanks

Santi

Sorry mate - that's a bunch of BS.
Turn them on and enjoy life! Congrats on your purchase.

 

[braminator]

Just curious for all the bologna people, do manufacturers know voodoo magic to recommend this break in procedure as stated right here on there website?

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/faq.php?show_faq=6

How should I run my speakers in?
Most loudspeakers will sound fairly dreadful out of the box. The sound quality will continue to improve for the first 50 hours of use.
The reason for this is that the moving-coil loudspeaker is a mechanical device. As manufactured, many of the parts have a certain rigidity or tension, that only begins to relax after the loudspeaker has been played for some time.

We design our loudspeakers with this in mind. Their optimum performance is their relaxed state - but in order to achieve this, they will necessarily sound fairly bad to begin with.

So to run in your new speakers we suggest playing music at a moderate (not loud) level continuously for 50 hours.

If you are in a noise sensitive environment, the way to achieve this with minimum disruption, is to stand the loudspeakers on the floor, directly facing each other. Then wire one of the speakers out of phase (i.e red to black and black to red). Their bass drivers will cancel each other out and the sound will be much quieter. After 50 hours, return them to the ideal listening position, REMEMBER to correct the wiring phase on the speakers, and enjoy the music.

Manufactuerers are so concerned with where we live to have a solution and maybe he lives in a sensitive enviroment

 

[jamie2112]

Just curious for all the bologna people, do manufacturers know voodoo magic to recommend this break in procedure as stated right here on there website?

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/faq.php?show_faq=6



Manufactuerers are so concerned with where we live to have a solution and maybe he lives in a sensitive enviroment

I think "Break In " is stated if someone doesn't like the sound of the speakers being listened to in a chain store. Oh,these take 50 hours to break in, they will sound much better after you have them home......That kind of Bologna I would assume......but you know what that does..

 

[Boerd]

Just curious for all the bologna people, do manufacturers know voodoo magic to recommend this break in procedure as stated right here on there website?

http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/faq.php?show_faq=6



Manufactuerers are so concerned with where we live to have a solution and maybe he lives in a sensitive enviroment

Good one.
OMG! LOL!
Can't believe they would say something like:
"Most loudspeakers will sound fairly dreadful out of the box. The sound quality will continue to improve for the first 50 hours of use. "

That should be red:
Our speakers sound like **** - but you'll get used to them; we've suckered you ...

Again, OMG!

 

[braminator]

Good one.
OMG! LOL!
Can't believe they would say something like:
"Most loudspeakers will sound fairly dreadful out of the box. The sound quality will continue to improve for the first 50 hours of use. "

That should be red:
Our speakers sound like **** - but you'll get used to them; we've suckered you ...

Again, OMG!

So I guess mine and many others ears have lied to our brains by making us think they sound better after some hours of use?

 

[Boerd]

So I guess mine and many others ears have lied to our brains by making us think they sound better after some hours of use?

I don't mean to come across rude or patronizing but if you read the article on audioholics about the speakers break in there is little point to "brake in" for speakers.
Most likely you get used to the sound after a few hours.
In the end I'd say enjoy life and your purchase - I may be wrong; you shouldn't care much what I say - it is your money and your speakers. Better enjoy them

 

[Matt34]

So I guess mine and many others ears have lied to our brains by making us think they sound better after some hours of use?

Read Bigred's response.

 

[braminator]

Again I think it is subjective to ones ear and how they hear or perceive to hear. Here is anothe quote from a highly regarded reviewer of Stereophile in regards to Dynaudio speakers

http://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/506dynaudio/

Dynaudio had told me up front that the 140 requires lots of break-in. Unlike with many loudspeakers, however, breaking in the 140 for a long time did not result in a small difference between good sound and better. It was more like the difference between god-awful and astonishingly good. Out of the box, I found the 140 veiled, murky, and pretty hard to listen to. After about 100 hours of playing music, they might have actually sounded worse—fortunately, when it comes to pain, humans have short memories. But after the 140s had played 250 hours' worth of full-range, dynamically challenging music, I walked into the house after a day spent elsewhere and listened in amazement. I heard music—and I saw that it was good.

 

[braminator]

I don't mean to come across rude or patronizing but if you read the article on audioholics about the speakers break in there is little point to "brake in" for speakers.
Most likely you get used to the sound after a few hours.
In the end I'd say enjoy life and your purchase - I may be wrong; you shouldn't care much what I say - it is your money and your speakers. Better enjoy them

Is this an absolute fact because that author said so? With so many other authors and or reviewers claiming they need to break in to hear the difference or is the mind tricking the ears in to believing they hear a difference?

Do the manufacturers not know what they are talking about, when stating in many users manuals and websites for their products, that their JUNK product will sound better after several hours of use. Or again is the mind tricking the ears?