New setup. Need help!

[Uween]

Hello all.....

Im looking to finally upgrade my system and im stuck with some questions. In 03 i got an Onkyo HT-S767c system. Im dont know what to do first on my upgrade. New receiver then speakers then sub or new speakers then receiver then sub. My receiver still works good and my speakers are still good.

New receivers im looking at.
Yamaha RX-V667
Yamaha RX-V671
Onkyo TX - NR609

New speakers im looking at.
Polk Audio CS1 Series II Center
Polk Audio CS10 Center
Polk Audio Monitor40 Series II
Polk Audio Monitor30 Series II i can get the the monitor40 cheaper.
Definitive Technology ProCinema 600


the only thing is i will not be able to get everything at one time. just need to know where i should start and it if this is a good setup.


any help would be great.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Any Polk's before LSi series are simply put - trash
Definitive Technology ProCinema 600 - is overpriced and under-performing hts

Lets start from clean page: What's your total budget and how big is your room (and if it's open to other spaces/rooms)

 

[Uween]

id say that the budget would be 1200$ to 1300$ but like i said i will not be able to buy it all at one time. The room is about 15x15 and i dont know would much longer i will be living at this place. The room leads to a hallway and the kitchen.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

id say that the budget would be 1200$ to 1300$ but like i said i will not be able to buy it all at one time. The room is about 15x15 and i dont know would much longer i will be living at this place. The room leads to a hallway and the kitchen.

ok, you currently have an Onkyo HT-R510 receiver part of the htib you had.
Honestly - if still works - it could be used to decode , say a digital cable, dvd or gaming console (with adapters)

But if you intend to get BluRay movies or 3d stuff - you need to change the receiver for sure
$1300 Budget - I'd divide like this:
Onkyo TX-NR708 - $400
Onkyo TX-NR708 7.2-Channel 3-D Ready Network A/V Receiver | Accessories4less

Infinity Primus
p252 150/each
Infinity Primus P252 (Black grille) Single floor-standing speaker at Crutchfield.com
pc251 center - $150/each
Infinity Primus PC251 Center channel speaker at Crutchfield.com
p152 - surrounds - 75/each
Infinity Primus P152 Single bookshelf speaker at Crutchfield.com
Sub:
Premier Acoustic PA-150 - you could it for $350 (shipped) here:
Premier Acoustic PA-150 1000 Watt Powered Subwoo
* Use make your offer

Total: $1350 delivered

I'd start with receiver, mains and sub. Get center and surrounds later if you must split the budget -
you could use you onkyo speakers as surrounds for now ...

 

[timoteo]

Here is a really great sounding budget system that is recommended around these here parts!!

Yamaha RX-V671 $498
Infinity Primus
P252 Towers $298pr
PC250 Center $149
P152 Bookshelf $148pr
Rythmik FV-12 Subwoofer $499
Total: $1592ish

Or

Substitute the Infintiy Primus speakers for the Pioneer SP-PK51SB package minus the crappy subwoofer.

I just bought my good friend those Pioneer speakers 5.0 for his anniversary!! Paired up with a new receiver hes buying & soon to come sub (not chosen yet) The speakers sound incredible for the $300 i paid for them!!

Edit: My bad i thought you said $1500 budget. Dont know why i thought that. Change the sub or receiver to get price down. Get the best sub you can though!!!

 

[timoteo]

Haha we posted these at the same time....told you it was recommended a lot here. Its a well established speaker combo that is one of the best in its class (Infinity Primus). The Pioneer is also excellent, i can personally vouch for them. Never compared them side by side to the Primus but i have heard both & liked both in their price range. I like the curved cabinets of the Pioneers better but thats just the looks. How they sound to you is the important part!

 

[Uween]

I have to say this looks great, but i just have to ask about the receiver and the sub.....what would be the big difference between the the onkyo 609 vs. 708? And why go with a 15" instead of a 10 or 12?

and thanks for all the info i can tell you have much it helps.....

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I have to say this looks great, but i just have to ask about the receiver and the sub.....what would be the big difference between the the onkyo 609 vs. 708? And why go with a 15" instead of a 10 or 12?

and thanks for all the info i can tell you have much it helps.....

Onkyo 7xx series offer besides everything else - something lower models don't - is multi-channel pre-out. If you ever get different speakers which would need more power with 7xx (or higher) models you could get just get external amp, instead of trashing the whole receiver.

Why 15" ? - Why not - it's cheap and has tons of power
In addition your room which is open to other spaced will not work with any 10" sub in you price range... The minimum i'd recommend is 12"
PA make PA-120 (like I have) - it works fine in my room, but to be honest I'd love to have more chest pounding effects which in my large living room pa-120 struggles to deliver.
another option is BIC PL-200 sub which would be found for about $280-300
http://www.sounddistributors.com/buynow.asp?action=detail&prid=526&crid=291&cat_name=Search
if you offer your own price

 

[zieglj01]

And why go with a 15" instead of a 10 or 12?

For movies, it is always better 12" and above. Get your receiver
from AC4L - they are a good company. I also, reccomend the
Pioneer speakers - I prefer them over the Primus. Your choice.

 

[Uween]

Thank you all for all the help now i have my goal and in the next couple of days will be ordering my new receiver.

 

[MidnightSensi2]

Also remember that by going from a 10" to a 15" subwoofer, your surface area is not going up by only 50%, since the surface area is Pi*r^2.

Like a 10" subwoofer has about 78-in^2 of surface area, yet a 15" has 177-in^2 ..... So more than two times the surface area of the cone.

With subwoofers, you /generally/ get a bigger return on investment going larger (the price jump versus performance bump makes sense). That is if the manufacturer doesn't try to make a huge lick on the larger driver subwoofer (frankly, it doesn't cost that much more to build a box for a 15" than a 10")

 

[Uween]

I have just one more question about the receiver. What is the best difference with these three receivers.

Onkyo TX-NR708 - $400 Onkyo Factory Refurbished I know last years model
Onkyo TX-NR709 - $479 Onkyo factory Refurbished
Onkyo TX-NR609 - $390 New


and will the Onkyo UWF-1 Wireless LAN Adapter work with the 708?