New basement project - help please!

H

HARP

Audiophyte
I'm an audio/video novice and I'm currently building a rec room and would like to wire my home theatre in-wall. I need suggestions please on which wiring direction is best. I'll be purchasing the following:

- 42" plasma tv in main viewing area
- 20" or so LCD tv for secondary viewing area to watch whatever is on "main" tv (about a 40 ft run)
- receiver
- surround sound speakers and subwoofer
- DVD/CD player
- digital cable HD box

I'd like to run all speaker wire and video cables in-wall. I need to run all speaker wire in wall (which I shouldn't have any problems with). However, I'm not sure what to do with the TVs. Can I run in-wall HDMI cables to both TVs? Do most receivers have multiple HDMI inputs? Is it ok to run HDMI 40'? Or should I run HDMI to my main tv and component cables to my smaller tv? Any other things I should be looking at?

Any help would be appreciated.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Check cable pricing at www.monoprice.com first

Second, you will find that very few receivers have HDMI inputs and even less work 100% with HDMI at this time. So, while I do recommend that you run HDMI to both locations, you will still want to have component and composite video as well. Those three cables types (HDMI, Component, Composite) are the absolute minimum you should be running to any television/distributed location.

I would also include some (2) coaxial cable (RG6 Quad Shield) to the locations in case you decide to add a local cable box/sat box later on down the road. Cheap to do it now. Plus, TVs typically have built in tuners.

All cables should be CL2 or CL3 rated for in-wall use... should being the key word.

For HDMI distribution you will need both a HDMI switcher, if you have multiple sources, and a HDMI splitter. Expect to spend several hundred dollars on those items - and no guarantees of them working due to HDMI/HDCP issues.

Finally, I always suggest the people take a look at front projection if they have not done so. For the price of a decent 42" plasma you can put up a 100" projection screen. That is what home theater is all about.

Budget of course, is key here. You want to start with your total budget. Then, determine how much of it will be split among the different items. If your budget is absolutely fixed, then look about 10% under what your budget is, because new costs arrise all the time.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Monoprice cables?

BMX,
Have you tried the monoprice cables? Their prices are dirt cheap but I suspect that the build quality might be inferior to other inexpensive options like Acoustic Research cables. I would appreciate your feedback.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
I've used one 33 foot (35?) foot cable for HDMI and it worked flawlessly. I have also used the Blue Jeans 30 footer... Both cables were for installations that were not my own, and both cables performed flawlessly meeting the customers expectations.

I personally will buy my HDMI cables from Monoprice. No, I'm not running HDMI yet despite 2 sources already and a third on the way.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
BMXTRIX said:
Check cable pricing at www.monoprice.com first.
BMXTRIX said:
Maybe last so he can see the great price savings:D

I personally will buy my HDMI cables from Monoprice. No, I'm not running HDMI yet despite 2 sources already and a third on the way.

Are you waiting for cable price to drop even more? :D
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
Pricing on the 12' premium component cables at monoprice were $19 (excellent), but shipping was $8 to my house. $27 is still a very good buy for those component cables.

The 12' premium component cables at www.cablewholesale.com are $18, and shipping is around $6. Sure, $3 is no big deal, but when you're talking 500' of 10 gauge speaker wire, or 100' of HDMI, it can make a difference. Check shipping! Either way, both companies are much, much better than going to your local BB, CC, or big box store for cable.

In comparison:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2110472&cp=&origkw=12+component+cable&kw=12+component+cable&parentPage=search
RadioShack.com - Cables, Parts & Connectors: A/V cables: Component cables: 13.12-Ft. (4m) Monster Video® 2 Component Video Cable

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7128477&type=product&id=1109938022588
Monster Cable - 16' THX Component Video Cable - U2 V600 CV

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6826125&type=product&id=1091101681753
Acoustic Research - 12' Component Video Cable - PR192

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Monster-THX-Ultra-1000-Component-Video-Cable-ULTV1000CV16-/sem/rpsm/oid/130439/catOid/-12887/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do
Buy the Monster THX® Ultra 1000 Component Video Cable (ULTV1000CV16) and other Video Cables and Connectors at circuitcity.com
 
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BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
mtrycrafts said:
Are you waiting for cable price to drop even more? :D
LOL - No. :)

I just found that the 3/4" conduit I pulled for 'future' HDMI runs is not actually wide enough to accomodate an HDMI cable, so I have to open up my walls to run the HDMI. Add to that, my projector is not HDCP compliant and all my content currently can be delivered over component... I'm just not really in a rush to upgrade for the (potential) minor improvement that HDMI offers.

Plus I have to split sources to multiple locations and then get a HDMI switcher and... urrrgghhh... to much right now.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
BMXTRIX said:
LOL - No. :)

I just found that the 3/4" conduit I pulled for 'future' HDMI runs is not actually wide enough to accomodate an HDMI cable, so I have to open up my walls to run the HDMI. Add to that, my projector is not HDCP compliant and all my content currently can be delivered over component... I'm just not really in a rush to upgrade for the (potential) minor improvement that HDMI offers.

Plus I have to split sources to multiple locations and then get a HDMI switcher and... urrrgghhh... to much right now.

Sounds familiar :eek:
 
R

Ralph

Enthusiast
What I did in my old house was ,,, when I finished my basement, I put in a wide chair rail on hinges and ran all my wiring behind it. With it being hinged it was easy to add more if needed.
 

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