new A/V receiver and old TV

[MikefromNC]

I plan to get a new A/V receiver to use with an old TV (not HDTV).

I noticed that many new receivers do not have S-Video connections - my old TV does (Onkyo and Denon and Marantz are a few that I looked at).

Do I need to buy an older model receiver so it can connect to my old TV - or do I have other options (besides buying a new TV - that will come with time)?

Where does one purchase older model receivers?

Thanks!

 

[bandphan]

I plan to get a new A/V receiver to use with an old TV (not HDTV).

I noticed that many new receivers do not have S-Video connections - my old TV does (Onkyo and Denon and Marantz are a few that I looked at).

Do I need to buy an older model receiver so it can connect to my old TV - or do I have other options (besides buying a new TV - that will come with time)?

Where does one purchase older model receivers?

Thanks!

You can still find plenty of avrs with legacy inputs. Also you can still run your sources direct to the tv.

 

[MikefromNC]

thanks

thanks bandphan.

Can you tell me the pros/cons of hooking up the sources direct to the tv?

Should I not worry about finding an older model receiver and just get the latest and greatest? Seems like all the major brands come out with a new line every year.

 

[bandphan]

thanks bandphan.

Can you tell me the pros/cons of hooking up the sources direct to the tv?

Should I not worry about finding an older model receiver and just get the latest and greatest? Seems like all the major brands come out with a new line every year.

Other than using the avr as an input switch there isnt really pros or cons. What speakers will you be using?

 

[Lordoftherings]

I plan to get a new A/V receiver to use with an old TV (not HDTV).

I noticed that many new receivers do not have S-Video connections - my old TV does (Onkyo and Denon and Marantz are a few that I looked at).

Do I need to buy an older model receiver so it can connect to my old TV - or do I have other options (besides buying a new TV - that will come with time)?

Where does one purchase older model receivers?

Thanks!

Hi Mike,

Because youn are using the S-Video to connect to your TV, you just need an older receiver (refurb one for about $200 max), and connect your source directly to your TV.
Check at Accessories 4 Less. Many Marantz and Onkyo receivers sell for very cheap,
with a full year warranty. Here's some great ones, all at less than $200.

1. Marantz SR3001 > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR3001/Marantz/SR3001-receiver-60w-x-7ch-Home-Theater-Receivers/1.html
>> $199.99

2. Onkyo TX-SR506 > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXSR506/Onkyo/TX-SR506-7.1-Channel-Home-Theater-Receiver-BLACK/1.html
>> $179.99

3. Onkyo TX-SR505 > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXSR505/Onkyo/TX-SR505-7.1-Channel-Home-Theater-Receiver-BLACK/1.html
>> $149.99

4. Onkyo TX-SR304 (Black) > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONLTXSR304BLK/Onkyo/TX-SR304-5.1-Channel-Home-Theater-Receiver-BLACK/1.html
>> $119.99

5. Onkyo TX-SR304 (Silver) > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXSR304S/Onkyo/TX-SR304-5.1-Channel-Home-Theater-Receiver-SILVER/1.html
>> $109.99

**** If you want better for about $300, look at these:

1. Onkyo TX-SR606 > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXSR606/Onkyo/TX-SR606-7.1-Channel-Home-Theater-receiver-BLACK/1.html
>> $319.99

2. Marantz SR4002 > http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR4002/Marantz/SR4002-receiver-80w-x-7ch-Home-Theater-Surround/1.html
>> $299.99 (Just scroll down a bit.)

Cheers,

Bob

Note; You don't even need S-Video jacks on the receiver.

* And when you upgrade to a newer TV (HDTV) in the future, just put your older TV and that receiver in your bedroom, and get a new receiver with HDMI and the full shawbang (again $200 max). Or the Onkyo TX-SR506 will do just fine for that future HDTV.

 

[Davemcc]

I'm just curious...what is your current system? Is it just the TV or do you have an existing receiver in place that you want to update? I'm just trying to figure out your upgrade path.

Upgrading the TV is the most pressing need, as you mentioned. Depending on what you already have, it might be better to pass on upgrading the other components and save for a new display sooner rather than later.

 

[cjsiv]

If it were me, unless you are using the receiver as a switch and only running one s-video cable to the tv, I would hook up the sources direct to the tv. Since you are obviously looking for a new receiver based on your initial post, it sounds like you are not wanting to upgrade your tv which is fine. Run the s-video straight to the tv and use your new receiver to handle the audio. When you choose to upgrade your tv in the future, you will be set in the audio dept.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Upgrading the TV is the most pressing need, as you mentioned. Depending on what you already have, it might be better to pass on upgrading the other components and save for a new display sooner rather than later.

^ I absolutely agree with that, a newer HDTV would entice you to get that new receiver.

 

[MikefromNC]

Tv

All - thanks.

I only have a TV currently -

No speakers - no receiver.

I am in the market for a new receiver, new DVD player, new speakers - probably bookshelf fom Axiom, and a new sub - probably from SVS.

The wife wants the smallest speakers possible - that's the reason for bookshelf speakers.

I noticed on the back of the older TV - that it does have an S-Video connection - plus a few audio and video connections.

I know nothing - so I thought the new receiver had to have an S-Video connection to connect to the TV - and I noticed many new receivers (Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer) have no S-Video connection - thus my initial question - how to connect the new receiver to the old TV.

Hopefully, a new TV is in the future - but that might be 3+ years.

Again - I know nothing - so thanks for your help.

 

[Lordoftherings]

All - thanks.

I only have a TV currently -

No speakers - no receiver.

I am in the market for a new receiver, new DVD player, new speakers - probably bookshelf fom Axiom, and a new sub - probably from SVS.

The wife wants the smallest speakers possible - that's the reason for bookshelf speakers.

I noticed on the back of the older TV - that it does have an S-Video connection - plus a few audio and video connections.

I know nothing - so I thought the new receiver had to have an S-Video connection to connect to the TV - and I noticed many new receivers (Denon, Onkyo, Pioneer) have no S-Video connection - thus my initial question - how to connect the new receiver to the old TV.

Hopefully, a new TV is in the future - but that might be 3+ years.

Again - I know nothing - so thanks for your help.

Hi Mike,

I see, no sweat. Just get a cheap receiver ($200 max), and you don't even need S-Video out from that receiver either. Just plug whatever source you have directly to your TV from
the S-video out from that source. Very simple.

* For some very good deals on receivers, just check at Accessories 4 Less.
Look at the Marantz & Onkyo Receivers for less that $200. There are even some that would be perfect for you that cost only $109.99 (Onkyo TX-SR304 Silver model). The same receiver
(Black model) is only $10 more at $119.99

** You already have all my links (post #5).

Cheers,

Bob

 

[Adam]

Hi, Mike. I might have missed it, but what video sources do you have or are you planning on getting (e.g DVD player, VCR). One nice feature of routing video through your receiver is that you can switch between sources by just switching the input on the receiver - another nice feature is that it often lets you connect more video sources than your TV alone can handle. Up until one week ago, I was using a TV that only had one video input. I used my receiver to switch between different video sources, such as a DVD player and my MacBook.

Like the others have mentioned, there are still a number of receivers out there that offer S-video inputs. As someone who used that on my TV, I was very aware of how companies were removing those from their receivers. Luckily, there are still some out there.

 

[MikefromNC]

video sources

I will probably only connect a DVD.
So I will have a DVD and a receiver and a TV.

I plan to run the TV sound through my new Axioms.

I do like the idea of switching between TV and DVD with the receiver.

To do that - do I need to connect the DVD to the receiver and then the receiver to the TV - using RCA type connectors ? componect?- that's what it looks like on the back of the TV.

 

[lsiberian]

The wife wants the smallest speakers possible - that's the reason for bookshelf speakers.

The KEF 3000 set is a very nice small speaker system. The best I've heard.

It can fill a small living room like an apartment.

Of course bookshelves are prefered on the front speakers.

 

[Lordoftherings]

I will probably only connect a DVD.
So I will have a DVD and a receiver and a TV.

I plan to run the TV sound through my new Axioms.

I do like the idea of switching between TV and DVD with the receiver.

To do that - do I need to connect the DVD to the receiver and then the receiver to the TV - using RCA type connectors ? componect?- that's what it looks like on the back of the TV.

Hi Mike,

You connect the DVD using the S-Video OUT cable to your receiver S-Video IN, and then the S-Video OUT from your receiver to your TV S-video IN.
If your TV accept Components, then you do the same, this time using the Components connections. The Components connectors are RCA jacks (three of them with colors RED, BLUE & GREEN).
* The Composite video RCA jack is YELLOW and it is the worst to use (just ignore it). It's a single cable, with Yellow ends.
** The S-Video is a four-pin connector. It's a single cable, usually Black in color and with these four tiny pins at each end.
*** The Components (RED, BLUE & GREEN) connection is the better one to use.
It could be a triple cable in one single cable, or it could be three separate cables.

For Sound, use the Coaxial digital (ORANGE, not Yellow), or Optical digital OUT from your DVD player to the digital Coaxial (ORANGE) or digital Optical IN of your receiver. Coaxial digital (ORANGE) is usually a better connection.

And you can also use the two analog Stereo RCA jacks Left and Right channels (WHITE & RED) from your DVD OUT to your TV analog Stereo RCA jacks Left and Right channels (WHITE & RED) IN. So, in this way, you can also listen from your TV speakers only when or if you don't want to turn your receiver ON.

If you have more questions, don't hesitate.

Regards,

Bob

 

[MikefromNC]

cables

OK - Bob - I think I am learning somethine here!
THanks.

Please help me understand the number and different kinds of cables I will need.

My TV definitely has composite connections(not component - red, blue and green - just red, white and yellow) and a S-Video connection.

I will assume to get receiver with an S-Video connection.

So - I need one S-Video cable to go from the DVD player to the receiver and another one to go from the receiver to the TV - correct? Is this just for video? (option 1)

I can also connect the DVD player directly to the TV with composite cables (option 2).

Can I also connect the DVD player to the receiver with composite cables and then from the receiver to the TV with composite cables? (option 3)
Is that just for video?

For sound - do I need Coaxial digital or Optical digital?
Is this just for sound and the DVD player?

For TV sound to come through the bookshelf speaker - not the TV speakers - do I get one set of composite cable from receiver to TV?

 

[Lordoftherings]

Yes Mike, you pretty much got it. The S-Video cable is the one you'll be using, and because you already said that you like to switch sources from the receiver, then, you want a receiver with S-Video inputs and output.

Your sources (DVD player, etc.) will be connected to your receiver with that S-Video cable, and from your receiver, another S-Video cable will be coming out and going to your TV.

And yes, in addition of these, you can also connect the Composite video (YELLOW) directly to your TV, but you don't need to, because the S-Video is a much better picture, comprende? This is all what you need, that's it for the Video equation.

For Sound, you just need to connect the digital Coaxial cable (ORANGE) from the DVD player to the receiver, that's it, no need of anything else.

Finally, if your TV has analog stereo RCA jacks OUT (RED & WHITE), then you connect those to the receiver TV (source) analog stereo IN.

*** Recap: One receiver with S-Video inputs and output.
One DVD player with S-Video OUT and digital Coaxial or Optical OUT.
One TV with S-Video IN and analog Stereo OUT.

Cables needed for the above: Two S-Video cables. One digital Coaxial or Optical cable. And one set of analog stereo cables (Left & Right). That's all.

Cheers,

Bob

 

[MikefromNC]

Thanks for the lesson

I got it Bob - thanks for your help

 

[bandphan]

why are we routing a single leagacy source input thru the avr?

 

[MikefromNC]

legacy source?

I am sorry - I don't understand your question.

What is your concern?

 

[bandphan]

I am sorry - I don't understand your question.

What is your concern?

If your only source to the tv is a dvd player, there is no need to route the signal through the avr at this time.