Need help with room Treatment...

Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Ok, Im finished with gathering my equipment, and I will be shooting to treat this Tough/Large/Bright room.. but I think you guys can help me....
Here are some pics of my room, Im sure you've seen it already...
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home theater/IMG_1643.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home theater/IMG_1642.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home theater/IMG_1641.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home theater/AVsetup003.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home theater/SVS-PB12Plus2006.jpg


You can check my sig for my equipment.

I was looking to find something that was asthetically pleasing. And I was thinking also possibly using some tapestries on that large wall. Are there any other companys that make Cool looking shapes, or something that has colored patterns.. Im really not sure about rectangles in this room.. maybe more like pattern squares..
Im new to this part of the HT, but this room is desperately in need of some help.

Do I also need to treat the area behind my plasma as well..?
Tell me what I need here...
Thanks alot for helping me out here.. I appreciate it..
 
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Jack Hammer

Jack Hammer

Audioholic Field Marshall
Wow! Your HT looks great. Like Nick said, you probably need a professional for your setup. I got my panels from GIK and am extremely happy. Glenn was incredibly helpful to me. The other recommended vendors here all have excellent reputations and have been very helpful to members. I think you will be happy with any of them if you contact them directly for help with your particular setup.

Jack
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
So other then the clock :) Anyone have some suggestions what would be a good start before I go to the company's for suggestions...

Also... what other vendors are there here... I have no clue..

thanks

Warp
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Warpdrv said:
So other then the clock :) Anyone have some suggestions what would be a good start before I go to the company's for suggestions...

Also... what other vendors are there here... I have no clue..

thanks

Warp

You have a very nice room, nicely decorated, etc. Unfortunately it is a living room not well suited for audio/ht per say. Not sure how much you and spouse will tolerate in there, even if the panels are blendable.
Your hardwood floor is an issue to overcome. The layout is not the greatest for audio.
I don't think you want to experiment first before you seek pro help with that nice room. And even then, you may want some computer rendition of the room and proposed solutions, how it will look.
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Well not worry on the WAF, as Im just a single dad here..
As well as good taste, I just finished putting this room together and thought maybe someone might have some cool ideas for wall treatments.. If you have seen something done in the contemporary motif, that really caught your eye, I would love to hear about it..

I was hoping that something like this be a benefit to that large wall.. and look good too....



Maybe I should start a new thread, Show me the coolest contemporary looking Room Treatments...
 
Glenn Kuras

Glenn Kuras

Full Audioholic
Nick250 said:
It looks pretty acoustically complicated. At least to me. I would get an opinion from someone like Glen at GIK.

http://www.gikacoustics.com/

Nick
Yea I have to agree with you on this one. Nice big room, but the set up looks a little strange also. I am going to email Bryan and get him to give a couple ideas.

Glenn
 
Glenn Kuras

Glenn Kuras

Full Audioholic
Warpdrv said:
Well not worry on the WAF, as Im just a single dad here..
As well as good taste, I just finished putting this room together and thought maybe someone might have some cool ideas for wall treatments.. If you have seen something done in the contemporary motif, that really caught your eye, I would love to hear about it..

I was hoping that something like this be a benefit to that large wall.. and look good too....



Maybe I should start a new thread, Show me the coolest contemporary looking Room Treatments...
WOW those are pretty cool looking!! Do you have a link for those? Man we should look into doing shapes like that. :D

Glenn
 
B

bpape

Audioholic Chief
That's a tough room. Lots of hard surfaces, corner placement, and the places you really need to treat aren't readily available.

I'd do something behind the plasma in terms of a bass absorber. I'd also consider thinking outside the box a little. What if you did some square absorbers but mounted them at 45 degrees to make them diamonds? You could mount several sets of them like a diamond made of diamonds but with some spacing between them - especially up high on the right wall as you're facing the fireplace.

You can also use some different sizes (maybe thinner) as an array of panels and/or to 'frame' a piece of art.

Bryan
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
I was just doing a search for acoustic treatments, and stumbled across Aurelex's website...

http://www.auralexelite.com/

Its called their SonoSuede, and it def. caught my eye...

I agree with the thoughts of 2x2's in diamond patterns, and I was pretty much against doing Rectangular layouts in that room... I really want to capitolize on the contemporary look of that house.. It has alot of potential..

And with something along the lines of A SonoSuede (look) I could envision something Sexy...

I also thought about layout of some wavy bean type shapes that protruded from the wall, and had dimmable lighting behind them Or maybe behing the Trapazoidal shapes... kinda a dual function deal, they would only have to be away from the wall a 1/2 inch to an inch to implement that sort of look.
Maybe you guys want to prewire them for lights.. or have the option with or without... LED's would be cool, but not sure on the dimmable ability.

Just some thoughts... I won't hold you to any patent rights :) :D :D :D

Im in no hurry, and could take it 1 step at a time, but would love some suggestions on placement and pratical theory..

I have also neglected to state that I know I do not have a perfect room here, with odd angles of implementation, and strange room shape here.. But I would still like to try to adress some things here. I know I can reduce some of the problems, but not all.. thanks

Thanks

Warp
 
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Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
myfipie said:
WOW those are pretty cool looking!! Do you have a link for those? Man we should look into doing shapes like that. :D

Glenn
Glenn,

Right-click your mouse on the picture and then select 'properties'. You'll see a window open with information on the origin of the jpeg. Here is the master website (picture is there, along with others)...I'll wager you know it well, lol. http://www.auralex.com

Good cheer.
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Tomorrow said:
Glenn,

Right-click your mouse on the picture and then select 'properties'. You'll see a window open with information on the origin of the jpeg. Here is the master website (picture is there, along with others)...I'll wager you know it well, lol. http://www.auralex.com

Good cheer.
haha... Beat ya too it by a minute !!! :)
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Im not finding alot of problems with the bass... it sounds pretty good.
Although I haven't done any major room analysis.

The room is obviously reflective, and Reverberant I was just trying to tame it a bit..

What is early reflection...?

I was hoping I could add some absorption to that large tall wall, and maybe something on the sides.. to tame down the reverb in the room...
If that is what it does, Tame the highs a bit, then they would probably be of some use..

Im trying to read up in areas of treatment...

Aside from whats stickied up top of this forum, what else is there..
bpape said:
That's a tough room. Lots of hard surfaces, corner placement, and the places you really need to treat aren't readily available.

I'd do something behind the plasma in terms of a bass absorber. I'd also consider thinking outside the box a little. What if you did some square absorbers but mounted them at 45 degrees to make them diamonds? You could mount several sets of them like a diamond made of diamonds but with some spacing between them - especially up high on the right wall as you're facing the fireplace.

You can also use some different sizes (maybe thinner) as an array of panels and/or to 'frame' a piece of art.

Bryan
Layout of the room is not close to ideal, but I was told it would have a benefit to standing ways.

I saw some good looking setups with diamonds, they look great..

I'll have to see what some bass traps would do..

I don't mind making things up myself, I can be quite handy, so construction of panels in an artistic fashion could be acheived. Is there a guide to building panels, and maybe I could get the material from one of the sponsers here..
 
Glenn Kuras

Glenn Kuras

Full Audioholic
Tomorrow said:
Glenn,

Right-click your mouse on the picture and then select 'properties'. You'll see a window open with information on the origin of the jpeg. Here is the master website (picture is there, along with others)...I'll wager you know it well, lol. http://www.auralex.com

Good cheer.
Auralex?? Never heard of them. :D

Glenn
 
Glenn Kuras

Glenn Kuras

Full Audioholic
Warpdrv wrote:

"Im not finding alot of problems with the bass... it sounds pretty good.
Although I haven't done any major room analysis."


You may be real surprised how good your bass could be with bass traps. I would recommend shooting the room, but be warned it will only make you cry how bad it really is now. :D :D

As far as those panels go, I think the numbers look pretty good if you only use them for first reflections and have plenty of bass trapping to back it up. One problem you would run into with just those is it would only tame the high end and still leave the bass bouncing around the room. I know I know you claim to have no bass problems. ;)

Glenn
 
Warpdrv

Warpdrv

Audioholic Ninja
Thanks alot for your help, I really appreciate your advice...
If you suggest that I should get some bass traps, Im certainly not against it..

Where would you suggest that I place those bass traps.. ?

Warp
 
Glenn Kuras

Glenn Kuras

Full Audioholic
Warpdrv said:
Thanks alot for your help, I really appreciate your advice...
If you suggest that I should get some bass traps, Im certainly not against it..

Where would you suggest that I place those bass traps.. ?

Warp
Well for starters I would treat the wall to wall and floor to wall corner behind your front speakers/Screen corner. At that point it is hard to say because of the layout of your room, but I would focus on as many corners as you can manage.

Glenn
 
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bpape

Audioholic Chief
Corner placement can provide some benefits - but also some drawbacks. Also, corner placement will not eliminate standing waves and room modes nor will it do anything to deal with overall decay times. About the only thing it can do is help focus the early reflections away from the seating location.

Bryan
 
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