Need bookshelf for Nad c352

[nosferatu]

Hi im looking for a pair of bookshelf to go alone with Nad c352. please recommend a speaker that are more on bright side. i listen to a lot for music in low levels and need something that will stand out in low levels. bass factor is not as important and mid's and high's

 

[GO-NAD!]

Hi im looking for a pair of bookshelf to go alone with Nad c352. please recommend a speaker that are more on bright side. i listen to a lot for music in low levels and need something that will stand out in low levels. bass factor is not as important and mid's and high's

The amplifier you have should not be a significant factor in deciding which speakers to buy. The C352 provides very good dynamic power output, so at low listening levels, that shouldn't be a concern. What are you willing to pay for a pair of speakers? Having said that, price is not always a reliable indicator of a speaker's quality. But, a budget will help establish a list of candidates.

Are you sure that bass is not important? If you really love listening to music and don't have (or plan to get) a subwoofer, you might want to re-consider that stance.

How large is the room?

 

[nosferatu]

well the reason i say bass is not as important is bc the Nad produce good amount of bass , and i have the dial turn down on it bc its just too boomie for my liking . I have PSB b15 with Nad now , but i need to put them back to my home theater. price would like to stay under 350 for new or used.
i was considering :
axiom , monitor audio, if not i just buy b15 , but i wanted to try some other speaker company. room is about 12x9 so its a small room. Also B15 is front ported , will rear ported speakers produce less bass ?.

 

[T2T]

well the reason i say bass is not as important is bc the Nad produce good amount of bass , and i have the dial turn down on it bc its just too boomie for my liking . I have PSB b15 with Nad now , but i need to put them back to my home theater. price would like to stay under 350 for new or used.
i was considering :
axiom , monitor audio, if not i just buy b15 , but i wanted to try some other speaker company. room is about 12x9 so its a small room. Also B15 is front ported , will rear ported speakers produce less bass ?.

You might want to add the Usher S-520s to your mix of speakers to review for your setup. Very detailed in sound.

 

[njedpx3]

Four great choices $219- $479

Cambridge Audio S30 - $219 /pair. Ported and has pretty good bass response and brigth mids and highs. Small, well built and have excellent sound. Can get in black or oak.
http://www.amazon.com/Cambridge-Audio-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B00196SJOI


Paradigm Atom V.6 about $249 pair in finer HT stores.

http://www.paradigm.com/en/paradigm/fronts-monitor-atommonitor-model-2-4-1-1.paradigm


Mordaunt Short Aviano 1 $400/pair
http://www.wildwestelectronics.net/mordaunt-short-aviano-1-bookshelf-audio-speakers.html

Usher S-520 $479
http://www.amazon.com/Usher-Audio-S-520-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002ABHNOS look at Audioholics recent review:http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/bookshelf/usher-audio-s-520-bookshelf-speaker-review


You need to go and listen and audition the speakers yourself. You can't go wrong with any of the four bookshlef speakers above!


Peace and Good Sound,

Forest Man

 

[GO-NAD!]

well the reason i say bass is not as important is bc the Nad produce good amount of bass , and i have the dial turn down on it bc its just too boomie for my liking . I have PSB b15 with Nad now , but i need to put them back to my home theater. price would like to stay under 350 for new or used.
i was considering :
axiom , monitor audio, if not i just buy b15 , but i wanted to try some other speaker company. room is about 12x9 so its a small room. Also B15 is front ported , will rear ported speakers produce less bass ?.

Well, the boomy bass should have nothing to do with the amplifier. I'm not familiar with the B15, but PSB has a very good reputation for making quality speakers. Do you like them in your HT setup? If so, you should be able to make them sound good in your 2-channel system. If you're hearing boomy bass, it may be a speaker positioning problem. Do you have them in a bookcase, in the room corners or up against a wall? If so, that'll be your problem. Even a bookshelf speaker needs "breathing room", in order to reduce the standing waves generated when placement is too close to a wall or corner. If they have sufficient space behind them and you still have booming bass, try some room treatments. I don't think going with a different speaker will solve that problem.

Front versus rear porting could be debated. It might have a small influence with regards to generation of standing waves, but it may have more to do with the speakers overall design and placement, than the position of the port.

 

[T2T]

Usher S-520 $479
http://www.amazon.com/Usher-Audio-S-520-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B002ABHNOS look at Audioholics recent review:http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/bookshelf/usher-audio-s-520-bookshelf-speaker-review

The Audioholics store here sells the Usher S-520s for $399, with free shipping:
http://store.audioholics.com/section/66340/1/usher-audio-bookshelf-speakers

 

[nosferatu]

Thank you go-NAD...
well my first intention was to use my Vienna Acoustic Haydn Grand as a 2ch. setup . But i could not get that great Vienna detail sound when hook up with Nad . both speakers sound much different with my Denon AVr in Direct mode. I must say PSB sounded much batter with nad than Vienna. with denon vienna puts PSB to sleep . So i was under the impression that vienna nad is not a good combo. so i put vienna back to home theater. my room is little odd i will post a pic later on
i will look in to usher reviews....

speakers are about 20" from wall, i only have 2 spots for speakers in the room .

 

[nosferatu]

this is my setup choices :

 

[GO-NAD!]

Thank you go-NAD...
well my first intention was to use my Vienna Acoustic Haydn Grand as a 2ch. setup . But i could not get that great Vienna detail sound when hook up with Nad . both speakers sound much different with my Denon AVr in Direct mode. I must say PSB sounded much batter with nad than Vienna. with denon vienna puts PSB to sleep . So i was under the impression that vienna nad is not a good combo. so i put vienna back to home theater. my room is little odd i will post a pic later on
i will look in to usher reviews....

speakers are about 20" from wall, i only have 2 spots for speakers in the room .

Hmm, if everything else is the same, I don't understand how there could be such a perceived difference in SQ, when using the NAD or the Denon. The nominal impedance of the PSBs is 6 ohms and the Viennas are 4 ohms, so that might be a factor in the power requirements for each. But, I wouldn't think that the difference in power output between the NAD and the Denon would be enough to create an audible difference, since you stated that you listen at low levels. I'm afraid I'm stumped.

I wouldn't buy any new speakers yet! Not until you can figure out why there is a difference in the SQ between the 2 pairs of speakers you already have, when using different amplifiers. If you already like them, the problem you are experiencing aside, you might be wasting money in buying new ones.

Hopefully, someone else with more knowledge of those particular speakers will be able to help.

 

[nosferatu]

maybe i will take the NAd in to living room and and see how much difference it will make in 3x the size of the room. maybe its the small room or speaker setup . i will keep playing with it

 

[GO-NAD!]

this is my setup choices :

The second picture would probably be the best layout. But, experiment and don't assume anything.

 

[nosferatu]

i moved nad to living room and everything open out , the sound its much more detail and not boomey. Its definatly the room acoustic that is messing up everything. if any one can sugest good set up or room treatment .


excuse my mess , just moved in and waiting for a new desk.
view from speakers

room view

from recliner

 

[GO-NAD!]

i moved nad to living room and everything open out , the sound its much more detail and not boomey. Its definatly the room acoustic that is messing up everything. if any one can sugest good set up or room treatment .


excuse my mess , just moved in and waiting for a new desk.
view from speakers

room view

from recliner

Well, now that you've determined that it was a room problem, not related to your equipment, you've probably just saved yourself continuing frustration and a substantial amount of money. A good, low-cost investment would be a Radio Shack SPL meter and a test tone CD. Then, you can obtain some objective measurements of what you are hearing. For advise on fine tuning your room acoustics, maybe you should post your details in the "Room Acoustics, System Layout & Setup" section. I'm afraid I can't offer any expert advise on appropriate room treatment, but there are others around here who are experts. Plus, read the related articles on the Audioholics website. There are several good articles related to room acoutics.

 

[nosferatu]

thank you i will do that.
I still need set of bookshelf's for that room , i put back psb back to HT.
will those work nice ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190386521646&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

 

[Seth=L]

Another large standmount bookshelf more than likely should be avoided. I would strongly consider a smaller speaker that is either sealed (no port) or front ported like the Usher previously mentioned in this thread. Those Paradigms are rear ported, and honestly that room is just too small and odd shaped without treatment to sound right.

 

[nosferatu]

i was looking in to usher , but there are few reviews saying they lack with bass and have harsh highs . What about PARADIGM ATOM ?

 

[Seth=L]

I haven't gotten that impression from those around here that have listened to the Ushers that their highs were harsh, they may be bright though. Their low end is reportadly limited by mechanics. At low levels they should sound great. If you pushed them to very high SPLs they would bottom out. Perceived harshness is a common problem with brighter sounding speakers, this more than likely won't be the same in your case because you are looking for low output and clarity.

You did say you wanted brighter speakers and that bass wasn't super important. I think the Ushers would balance out quite well in that room for your needs.

 

[nosferatu]

what is a return policy on speakers in audioholics store?.

 

[Seth=L]

what is a return policy on speakers in audioholics store?.

I am not sure.