Need advice regarding bi-amping on AV Reciever

[CaptHotah]

Hi all. I need help with a wierd question :

I want to buy a Marantz SR6015 9.2 av reciever and a PM8006 integrated amp. I have a 5.1.4 setup. I'm gonna use the PM8006 for the mains obviously. That leaves my SR6015 connected only in 3.1.4.

Can i somehow bi-amp the side surrounds speakers with the free/unused rear surrounds connections on my avr? Usually people bi-amp the main fronts to the unused rear surrounds.

I would like to do this because sometimes i like to listen to electronic music in 4.1 and that way i can probably get more juice in the sides/rears

Thanks

 

[lovinthehd]

It doesn't really work that way regarding more juice (it doesn't "double"). I wouldn't bother but unlikely the avr is setup to use anything but the main L/R channels in its passive bi-amp mode.

 

[ryanosaur]

Ya. No point really in what you are talking about. When Bi-Amped, 100w +100w = 100w x2(ea.(as in, per driver))... it is not additive. Moreover, when doing this from a single Amp/Power Supply, you are actually robbing some of the energy available to all channels.

 

[TLS Guy]

Hi all. I need help with a wierd question :

I want to buy a Marantz SR6015 9.2 av reciever and a PM8006 integrated amp. I have a 5.1.4 setup. I'm gonna use the PM8006 for the mains obviously. That leaves my SR6015 connected only in 3.1.4.

Can i somehow bi-amp the side surrounds speakers with the free/unused rear surrounds connections on my avr? Usually people bi-amp the main fronts to the unused rear surrounds.

I would like to do this because sometimes i like to listen to electronic music in 4.1 and that way i can probably get more juice in the sides/rears

Thanks

You absolutely can not combine a receiver and an integrated up. That is impossible and will be a horrendous mess. You can only combine a receiver with a power amp, if it has preouts. Lastly forget totally passive bi-amping. That is a waste of time and money and will be of zero benefit, but can be very harmful if you don't know what you are doing.

 

[CaptHotah]

You absolutely can not combine a receiver and an integrated up. That is impossible and will be a horrendous mess. You can only combine a receiver with a power amp, if it has preouts. Lastly forget totally passive bi-amping. That is a waste of time and money and will be of zero benefit, but can be very harmful if you don't know what you are doing.

What? You can connect the integrated amp on the pre-outs at the back of the reciever and use it as a power amp.

 

[TLS Guy]

What? You can connect the integrated amp on the pre-outs at the back of the receiver and use it as a power amp.

Well, you could, but it would be very unwise and make absolutely no sense. To be blunt about it, it is an idiotic plan, with only negative merit. For a start will be stacking preamps, and likely run into gain structure issues, and even input saturations, as well as adversely affecting you signal to noise ratio. Lastly your receiver has better more powerful amps than your Integrated amp. Receivers give better value for money then integrated amps because of economy of scale. So what you plan is a significant downgrade and quality spoiler on many levels.

If you think you need more power to your main speakers, then you need to purchase a dedicated power amp in the 250 to 300 watt per channel class.

 

[CaptHotah]

Well, you could, but it would be very unwise and make absolutely no sense. To be blunt about it, it is an idiotic plan, with only negative merit. For a start will be stacking preamps, and likely run into gain structure issues, and even input saturations, as well as adversely affecting you signal to noise ratio. Lastly your receiver has better more powerful amps than your Integrated amp. Receivers give better value for money then integrated amps because of economy of scale. So what you plan is a significant downgrade and quality spoiler on many levels.

If you think you need more power to your main speakers, then you need to purchase a dedicated power amp in the 250 to 300 watt per channel class.

Sorry but you started with "you absolutely can not, it's impossible" and then followed with "well you could but it's unwise". Do you see how "idiotic" that makes you look?

Also, i didn't say anywhere that i want to add the integrated amp for more power. No, i want it for music listening wich will sound better than any avr/power amp combined. Many people does this.

 

[killdozzer]

Hi all. I need help with a wierd question:

I see what you did there!

Allow me to give it another shot. What you propose makes no sense. That's the short version. TLS answered about a million questions like yours so he is at the point where he simply lays it out, no tiptoeing. Maybe it made him look idiotic in your eyes, but that's not quite so; it still holds that if you can't do something with a positive outcome, then it is impossible.

Many people does this.

Many people do many things. That doesn't make them right. A lot of people used to watch Kardashians.
You are free to do what you want, but here, at AH, people won't tell you to do something that doesn't result in improvement (especially if it asks for money).

There's a notion in audiophile circles that stereo amps are better for music listening. However, up until now, there's not a single evidence to back this up. It all comes down to anecdotal or circumstantial. Adding a power amp to your system can solve speakers being underpowered, but it has nothing to do with the number of channels.

What you can expect; surrounds will not receive more power, front won't play music better, depending on specific detriment to your system's overall gain, you might even like it, some people do, but it will remain a detriment.