Need advice on "SHARING" the TV DISPLAY, Splitters...

[rivrbyte]

HELLO~
OK, I have finished pulling my hair out, just long enough to write this revised inquiry.....

But I have a feeling, you will be doing the same thing, in reading through this post!

I'm sorry that these things come much easier to some, but I am soo scatterbrained, with a recent death of my dear Mom, I just want to get through this (to me, anyway) complicated connections.

I presently have this:

New 46" Samsung Smart TV (UN46H5203AF, DOES support HCTP.

Yamaha RX-V675 7.1 A/V Receiver. (HDMI-OUT 1(ARC), and HDMI OUT 2.

Sony BDP350 Blu-Ray player.

Time-Warner HD STB.

Everything above, is connected to my Yamaha Receiver.

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I also have my older Samsung 46"TV (LN46A750R1F, ALSO SUPPORTS HTCP

All I am trying to do, is 'SHARE' the same DISPLAY, from what is in the main Living Room, to the second TV, 40' away. I thought HDMI would be the norm, but other's suggest cate5 Ethernet.

A chat, with a Monoprice tech support dude, told to go to Monoprice and find HDMI powered Splitters, but both the REDMERE active high speed HDMI cables, and the splitters both have different recommended AWG ratings. I was looking at the Monoprice # 10242, and #10249. One INPUT/TWO OUTPUTS. The 40' cable #9431, but this is 28 AWG.

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UPDATE:::::::
Then someone else strongly suggested I use cat5e Cable, and can get 50' of this, for less than $8.00. Also, buy the Monoprice' HDMI Extender/1X2 splitter #8158, it costs $94.00. Also, use all 24AWG for all other runs.

(50' from splitter to second TV, using CATe5)

(10' in-wall rated 24AWG from Receiver or STB, to MAIN DISPLAY)

(1' foot length of 24AWG, from Splitter, to Receiver or STB, to MAIN DISPLAY)

Monoprice does not have 40', in CATe5 in 50', so I would have to buy 50'.


******* HE TOLD ME TO CONNECT EVEYTHING INTO THE TIME-WARNER BOX , NOT THE RECEIVER....... REALLY? *********


On the back of my TW Samsung STB, I see these inputs: Cablecard,1394,USB, an optical/digital TOS, and one HDMI PORT. I do not see an Ethernet cable port anywhere.


Monoprice has a HDMI Extender #8158. This kit comes with two splitter-RECEIVERS, not to be confused with my Yamaha RX-V675 A/V receiver.
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In order to SHARE a second TV display, I would need to do the following, correct me please, but according to Monoprice:
(1)
TIME-WARNER HD CABLE BOX > 24AWG HDMI CABLE > #8158 SPLITTER. ( 2X I' -2' FOOT EACH)

(2)
FROM THIS MAIN larger SPLITTER, DIVIDES IN TWO, ONE shortie Cat5e, GOES TO ONE SMALL RECEIVER, one end is CAT5E, and other end, is 24AWG HDMI.....connects to MAIN TV DISPLAY CLOSE BY.

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FROM THIS MAIN larger SPLITTER #8158, ALSO USES THE shortie Cat5e, GOES TO ONE SMALL RECEIVER, one end is CAT5E, and other end, is 24AWG HDMI... CONNECTS TO SECOND TV DISPLAY, 40' FEET AWAY.

The recommended 24 AWG,for #8158 HDMI Extender Splitter 1X2, is 24 AWG. (Monoprice)

First, Monoprice told me I needed to use the Cat5e for longer 40+ distance runs, then told me about this Extender splitter, and I would have to use Cat5e for both the short runs, between the main splitter box #8158, to either the TW HD Cable, or to the Yamaha receiver, (which application I use) but they told me to prevent degradation, it's better to use the cat5e, into TW Cable box, than to use my Yamaha receiver.

Does it now matter that I WILL NOT BE USING the Cat5e, for the 40'-50' distance, like someone told me earlier? They said it was better fro the signal.

I am only going to use TWO 3' Cat5e cables, between main #8158, and the two smaller splitter-receivers?

So what 24 AWG HDMI cable do I need, for the long 40'- 50' from one of the small splitter/receivers, to 50' away, to second display, since I can NOT use the Cat5e cable.

So, If this #8158 splitter requires a 24AWG size, (or Cat5e), like 24AWG, and since REDMERE ONLY comes in 28AWG, not 24AWG, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING in a 40'-50'that is either REDMERE, or at least pliable like that? If not, can I still use this 24 AWG cable, without incident? Any suggestions? Much appreciate it! Thanks!

 

[WaynePflughaupt]

Your thread would gotten better traction if you had simply asked “what’s the best way to split HDIM, with one of the split legs going 40 feet.” That is, assuming that I understand your objective.

I can’t tell from your post if you’re simply trying to get the second TV to display whatever is on the main TV, at the same time it’s being seen on the main TV, or trying to get fully independent video to the second TV (i.e. not necessarily the same as what’s on the main TV).

If the former, then split the Yamaha’s HDMI output (no it won’t degrade the signal compared to splitting the HDMI output from the cable box – that’s nonsense). Send one side of the splitter to the main TV. Send the other side to the second TV, possible using the Cat5 converter rig (I’m not sure how long you can run HDMI cables). Note, this is assuming you now have all sources connected to the Yamaha receiver via HDMI, and have a single HDMI fed from the Yamaha to the mainTV.

If you’re trying to get the cable box signal directly to the second TV (for independent viewing of cable TV), then split the cable box’s HDMI output, same as described above. I.e., one side of the splitter outbox will go to the Yamaha, and the other to the second TV.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt

 

[BMXTRIX]

Sounds like the A/V receiver already internally splits the HDMI signal and offers that video output to both displays.

IMO, you use the Redmere cable, a heavy gauge HDMI cable, or a HDBaseT extender system over cat-5e/6 cable to the second TV location. It TRULY does not matter which of the 3 long cables you use, as long as what you get works. Long haul HDMI can be tricky, but I use standard HDMI cable typically for length up to 50'.

Same source to both displays is what you will get. If you want something different than that, you will need to buy a HDMI matrix, or use some additional parts.

Do NOT use short HDMI cables. Use one long HDMI cable from your A/V receiver's second HDMI output directly to the input of your second TV. You can use either of these cables:
REDMERE:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10255&cs_id=1025507&p_id=9172&seq=1&format=2

or STANDARD:
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2804&seq=1&format=2

Redmere cables are great because they can be thinner over longer distances and provide the same or better performance than standard HDMI cables. But, they use electronics in them which can fail, and the cable then must be completely replaced.

I personally have used these a number of times now and they have always, always, always worked perfectly:
http://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-High-Speed-Cable--wall/dp/B004GW25WY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1432754121&sr=8-2&keywords=50+foot+hdmi+cable

Very well reviewed, and a great price.