Need a new audiophile grade mp3 palyer.

[JoeE SP9]

That is the reason double blind tests exist! Your brain can play unimaginable tricks on you. I'll bet if you did a double blind test (properly) the difference would be significantly less or even dissapear (with properly encoded material).

As I said, in my home using my system the differences are glaringly obvious. If your gear doesn't have sufficient resolution to hear it, that's on you.

 

[JoeE SP9]

What encoder[and version]? Which encoding mode? What bit rates? Which music sample? Did you prepare the sample correctly(time sync, etc.)? You need to use DBT to get an accurate assessment. Control trials of high quality encodes do not support that people hear an 'obvious' difference unless (1) a poor encode is the problem [or] (2) an unusual sample breaks the psycho-acoustic model of the encoder

-Chris

As I have been saying the differences in my system are so obvious anyone and everyone can hear them. I'm talking about differences so obvious that when you walk in the door you know immediately the sound is not right.

 

[abboudc]

As I have been saying the differences in my system are so obvious anyone and everyone can hear them. I'm talking about differences so obvious that when you walk in the door you know immediately the sound is not right.

On your home gear, sure. But how about on the $5 headphones that come packaged with these mp3 players? For their intended purpose and use, the bitrate is fine

 

[JoeE SP9]

On your home gear, sure. But how about on the $5 headphones that come packaged with these mp3 players? For their intended purpose and use, the bitrate is fine

I don't own any headphones. I gave my Stax phones to a buddy. The feeling of sound coming from inside my head has always felt kind of creepy to me. As for an MP3 player for home use, you've got to be kidding.

 

[WmAx]

As I have been saying the differences in my system are so obvious anyone and everyone can hear them. I'm talking about differences so obvious that when you walk in the door you know immediately the sound is not right.

It seems very unlikely that you have addressed any of the critical factors I have mentioned as of this point. Therefor your claims are not probable in reality when using a proper encoder.

-Chris

 

[JoeE SP9]

It seems very unlikely that you have addressed any of the critical factors I have mentioned as of this point. Therefor your claims are not probable in reality when using a proper encoder.

-Chris

I know what I hear. I know what my friends hear because they say so. If you can't hear the differences maybe you should get better gear. I said MP3's don't sound as good as the original RBCD files and they don't. You seem to be the only one who has a problem with that. Instead of quoting passages from someones white paper why don't you listen for yourself?

 

[MDS]

If you believe one format is vastly superior to another, then use the one you prefer but at least try to avoid the most used subjectivist reasons for the preference:

1. I know what I hear and you can't tell me otherwise.
2. Your gear is not 'resolving' enough, otherwise you would clearly hear what I hear.
3. My wife/girlfriend/mother/brother/etc that aren't even into music can clearly hear it too and why would they lie?

Those are the most common and they ring hollow because it means one is not even open to the possibility that just maybe their ears could be fooling them due to psychological bias (ie you WANT to believe it is inferior, therefore it will be). There is a lot of evidence that that is exactly the case the majority of the time.