NASA Unveils Warp Ship Design

mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
.... In theory, space can expand at much faster than the speed of light....
That is what I hear on shows like Cosmos that at the Big Bang space expanded faster than light speed. What was different then than now for such speeds to be a reality then.
 
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shadyJ

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That is what I hear on shows like Cosmos that at the Big Bang space expanded faster than light speed. What was different then than now for such speeds to be a reality then.
There is no difference between then and now, except for the rate of the universe expansion. Space itself can expand extremely rapidly. Think about it this way: you are an ant walking along a rubber band. The ends of the rubber band are point A and point B. If someone stretches out the rubber band as you are walking along it, it doesn't mean you end up walking slower, it just means point A, point B, and every point inbetween all have gained a lot more distance between them. Basically, now you have to walk further to reach your destination. If the rubber band is allowed to contract, again, it does not mean you are now walking faster, it simply means the distances between everything have been reduced, and you can reach your destination quicker.

That doesn't mean you can travel faster than light, and the thesis behind the warp drive in this discussion is still tenuous theory and isn't known to be possible. At this point, it is only thought to maybe be possible by some theorists. People who believe in causality will be far more skeptical of the drive.

By the way, the universe is still expanding faster than the speed of light, in fact objects at the distant edge of our vision are disappearing. If the current accelerating rate of expansion continues, eventually everything beyond out galaxy would be swept from our vision, and even everything beyond our solar system would vanish. Anyone alive at that point would have no concept of cosmic history if it is not handed to them from their ancestors. And, of course, further down the line, planetary systems get thrown apart, and eventually all individual atoms get ripped to pieces.
 
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fox

Audioholic
Even though it may never happen, I hope it can be made to work some day. It would be so very cool if some form of warp drive could really be created. Technology does move on.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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I think it would be disastrous. But that's just my opinion.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
I think it would be disastrous.
Why? Is it because you think that they'll weaponize it? If so, warp drive would be such a game changer that it might help us get passed our typical fighting over limited resources. Well, or get us into a fight with another race on another planet for the same thing. Yeah, I guess people suck. Oh, well. No way we'd spread throughout the galaxy, let alone past it. Plus, let's face it - our species will be gone before this planet ends, and this planet will be gone before any other species even knows it existed.

Either way, I have cold beer. Yep, it's the simple things. :D
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
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Weaponizing it would be one disaster. Another problem is any kind of mishap with that kind of space-time curvature would destroy any nearby planetary system. There is no practical way to get a safe distance from Earth to test a device like that. You don't want people screwing around with the orbit of your home planet, intentionally or accidentally.
 
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Midwesthonky

Audioholic General
Weaponizing it would be one disaster. Another problem is any kind of mishap with that kind of space-time curvature would destroy any nearby planetary system. There is no practical way to get a safe distance from Earth to test a device like that. You don't want people screwing around with the orbit of your home planet, intentionally or accidentally.
I dunno, a bit of a wobble in our orbit might get people to ignore all the petty religious differences and panic over the fate of the entire planet and the human race. Not that I'm advocating for a global panic or anything. At least not until I have a shelter built. Course, just speculating, but what would happen if the spin and orbit was affected so the middle east became a frozen pole?
 
Irvrobinson

Irvrobinson

Audioholic Spartan
You guys are having the dumbest conversation ever on Audioholics. You're arguing about a technology which has a very questionable chance of ever existing, and then you're arguing about whether this unlikely-to-exist technology could be used to create a weapon. (If a pencil can be a weapon, I'm sure space warping technology could be too.) IMHO, y'all are way too smart for this argument. :)
 
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shadyJ

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I dunno, a bit of a wobble in our orbit might get people to ignore all the petty religious differences and panic over the fate of the entire planet and the human race. Not that I'm advocating for a global panic or anything. At least not until I have a shelter built. Course, just speculating, but what would happen if the spin and orbit was affected so the middle east became a frozen pole?
I think a bit of a wobble would amplify petty religious differences, not induce people to ignore them. Social stress tears at the fabric of civilization and thus civilized behavior. Look at the social divide that climate change has already caused. As the effects become more dire, doubtless that religious people of all faiths will call it god's judgement and blame the populace for not being sufficiently pious. My guess is in the last days you will be looking at something like the inquisition but on a much grander scale. Might make for some fun TV if you are safe in a sealed shelter with a bag of popcorn, but I wouldn't want to be in the middle of it.

If the Middle East became a pole, the current poles would shift a lot closer to equatorial regions and the ice would rapidly melt. Antarctica would refreeze in the south pacific, so not all the thawed water would deluge the coasts, but surely sea levels would rise due to arctic thaw that middle eastern bodies of water could not make up for. Alaska, Northern Canada, and Siberian Russia would become near equatorial zones so would turn into much more hospitable areas, tropical climates. Antarctica would be pretty nice too. Overall the world would get a bit more crowded, because it looks like you would be losing a lot more livable landmass than gaining.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
IMHO, what makes people smart is the ability to have a conversation without getting argumentative. There are threads here on AH and concepts in general, far pettier than the ideas being discussed in this thread. DAC audibility anyone?

IMHO, leaving the physics aside and concentrating on the meta, we as a species really need the ability to warp travel. Either to confirm our uniqueness or disprove it. If we are unique, we should care more about one another. If we are not, we are insignificant and should care more about our one in a million species. Win win wishful thinking...
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
You're arguing about a technology which has a very questionable chance of ever existing, and then you're arguing about whether this unlikely-to-exist technology could be used to create a weapon.
Thanks for letting me know. I didn't realize we were arguing.

You guys are having the dumbest conversation ever on Audioholics.
You really need to do a search. :D
 
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