NAD T773 Vs. DENON 3805 questions?

[excetara2]

I am looking at either buying the NAD T773 or the DENON 3805. I know the features of each. I am wondering which sounds better for music. Anyones experience with either of these. Thanks a lot.

 

[JES14]

You can see from my sig the units I have. I also have a NAD C350 integrated with a pair of Paradigm Titans. I find the NAD's to be more musical.

 

[excetara2]

I've also thought about OUTLAW sep's. Does anyone know how these would compare to the NAD. Thanks a lot.

 

[pearsall001]

I've had the T773 for over 2 yrs now. It is one fabulous receiver. I liked it better by a large margin when I listened to it compared to Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer Elite & Sony ES receivers. IMO it is truly a very musical sounding AVR. That is NAD's philosophy - "Music First" w/o all the useless bells & whistle some of the others throw in there to get your business. It has plenty of power & high current to drive your speakers w/o breaking a sweat. I give the T773 2 thumbs up!!!

 

[PENG]

When I did the comparison a couple of years ago, using Paradigm speakers I did not find the NAD any more musical than Yamaha or Denon. You are going to have to listen for yourself. The NAD for sure has more power with all channels driven so it may do better if you listen to a lot of multi-channel music. For two channel, the 3805 has excellent dynamic capability for a 37.5 lb receiver.

 

[newfmp3]

I went by the advice of money on this forum that the NAD T773 was the better amp to get for music. So I bought it. Where i live I could not audition it first, and had to order it blind.

Took me 5 mins to wish I hadn't bought it. Very flat sound, no detail in the highs, great mids if you like lots of em, and the bass was a little boomy. I had it for 5 weeks while my 4600 was ordered and stuck in a shipping port due to a strike.

No EQ means you are stuck with how it sounds with your speakers and room forever.

It has balls, it's built like a tank, and it's remote is probably the easiest and best designed one I've picked up. It's simple to use as it's GUI is very basic. Has no up converting capabilites not even for component. It does sound really good for Movies, but for music I had to eq it to get the sound I wanted with an external EQ and even then I could not eq movies without getting seperate eq's for each channel which adds up to $$$$$.

Depends on your ear, that is all that matters. You really should hear it first. To me, the yamaha sounded better once setup right ( out of the box the yamaha also disappointed me, and it's a B$%%^^ to get all the eq crap setup and YPAO is useless.

I do like good hard bass, very clear highs, and less mid range in my music. And I listen to top 40, rap, rock, alternative type stuff. I like action movies, sci fi, adventure ( LOTR, King Kong, Star Wars etc)

It has power, although you'll have to turn it WAY up, much further then you might think ( that doesn't really mean anything) and it handled my Axiom setup with ease. But it does have some hissing issues. Make sure to get the latest firmware ( should not be a problem now, but an old model might not have it)

Oh, and it weighs a TON! My box weighed in at almost 80 lbs when I shipped it back. Shippers beware

 

[pearsall001]

Newfmp3

From reading your post it really sounds like you have a lot of issues w/ your room. If you didn't like the NAD that's fine because it's your opinion. My opinion just happens to be the complete opposite. Even when you describe the 4600 AVR & all the EQ'ing you have to do to get it to sound good really reflects back on your room. You mentioned the NAD's bass being boomy, it's not the NAD it's your room. Also you mentioned the NAD doesn't come w/ a EQ feature, no kidding, just more useless bells & whistles. Good gear along w/ a good room don't need it. Having to rely on EQ & automatic set up of the receivers is really your room screaming out at you. - help me please!! It amazes me how many people ignore room treatments. Dollar for dollar it is the best upgrade you can do. You would be speechless when you hear your present set up in a acoustically treated room. It doesn't even have to be expensive to get started. Check out other forum chat on the subject. There are those that say a 30k system in a untreated room would be bested by a 5k system in a treated room, just food for thought.

 

[newfmp3]

Sorry, not the room. Been through this so many other times it's getting silly.

The importance of room materials is very important, I completely agree, but it can only go so far.

The Nad was intended to replace two Carvers ( lower end carvers)in the same room with the same speakers. The only change was the NAD. The carvers sounded excellent without an eq. The NAD needed it for the sound I wanted. MY room has an excellent sound and everyone that comes into it agrees.

The NAD's power section is very impressive. The NAD pre-amp section can use a little work. I'm sure their newer stuff might be better, but I wan't impressed that much with the 773.

It's all about the sound YOU want. That is why reading stuff here on how others hear it is pointless. I can't stress that enough. we can talk features quality, add ons etc, but trying to write how something sounds is impossible. Go hear it, better yet, take the receiver home for a few hours, that is the best single thing you can do. Even if it costs some money in shipping it is worth it. A good reputable dealer should do this for you.

 

[3db]

It always about the room.

Sorry, not the room. Been through this so many other times it's getting silly.

The importance of room materials is very important, I completely agree, but it can only go so far.

The Nad was intended to replace two Carvers ( lower end carvers)in the same room with the same speakers. The only change was the NAD. The carvers sounded excellent without an eq. The NAD needed it for the sound I wanted. MY room has an excellent sound and everyone that comes into it agrees.

The NAD's power section is very impressive. The NAD pre-amp section can use a little work. I'm sure their newer stuff might be better, but I wan't impressed that much with the 773.

It's all about the sound YOU want. That is why reading stuff here on how others hear it is pointless. I can't stress that enough. we can talk features quality, add ons etc, but trying to write how something sounds is impossible. Go hear it, better yet, take the receiver home for a few hours, that is the best single thing you can do. Even if it costs some money in shipping it is worth it. A good reputable dealer should do this for you.

I thought I had good imaging from my PSB's and when I added the acoustic treatment, the imaging improved so much more again. The bass response even out even further. Like mentioned before, if you eq that much with your Yammy, its because the Yammy detects faults with your room acoustics. I can't wait to finish the whole room room from an acoustic's persepctive.