Mythos 1 vs paradigm studio 60

[ryneex]

So i picked up some mythos 1's at best buy at about 60 percent off which was a good deal. However they sound good but i feel like i paid tons of money and maybe could have gotten a sattelite that sounds just as good. Im running them in a 2 channel system with a svs pb12+2. Currently im using them for music and eventually want to build a full 5.1 but until i can get everything else just for music. I cant stop reading about the paradigm studio 60 im aware they cost much more but would rather pay more if they are gonna be a much better speaker long term. The good news is that I still have a couple weeks to return the mythos 1's. I have a paradigm store just have to set up a appoitment up to audition them. My thinking is that the mythos are great if you care about the looks and a slim speaker but studio 60 or most paradigm floorstanders will beat them. Please help me out if im right or anybody has any ideas.

 

[ryneex]

I forgot to include say monitor 7 would they compare to the mythos 1 also.

 

[Davemcc]

Since you only have two of the Mythos, you have some options. You can keep them and use them as rears no matter what you choose as your front speakers.

As you say, moving into the Paradigm puts you in a whole new price bracket. When you move into a new price bracket like that, it's a good idea to start your shopping all over again in that bracket rather than just focusing on the first speaker you find in that bracket. There's tons of speakers in the price range of the Paradigms models you mentioned. Start shopping and enjoy the process. Find the perfect speaker for you.

 

[JerryLove]

Used might be an option. I don't know where you are, but I've got a pair of v3s, and I believe Warpdrv has a pair of v4s for sale.

 

[solomr2]

I think you would be very hard pressed to find a sattelite that sounds half as good as the Mythos one towers. If there is one out there, I've never heard it, or read about it. The Mythos has multiple drivers and pretty solid, advanced, enclosures. It is a full-range tower speaker. Most sats are not full range, despite what their marketing materials may say.

I haven't heard the Paradigm studio 60s personally, but I know they are a very reputable speaker company with great products. I suspect the paradigms and the Mythos ones are pretty comparable in sound, value and build qualilty. But the only way to be sure is to audition them both with your own favorite source material, and if possible with the same equipment and in the same sound room. That's not likely unless you find a dealer that carries both brands.

 

[JerryLove]

I think you would be very hard pressed to find a sattelite that sounds half as good as the Mythos one towers. If there is one out there, I've never heard it, or read about it. The Mythos has multiple drivers and pretty solid, advanced, enclosures. It is a full-range tower speaker. Most sats are not full range, despite what their marketing materials may say.

I'm pretty dubious of the ability of a very small tower to produce 20Hz with 2x5.25 drivers at realtively low wattage. If it could, many have wasted a lot of money on subwoofers.

I haven't heard the Paradigm studio 60s personally, but I know they are a very reputable speaker company with great products. I suspect the paradigms and the Mythos ones are pretty comparable in sound, value and build qualilty. But the only way to be sure is to audition them both with your own favorite source material, and if possible with the same equipment and in the same sound room. That's not likely unless you find a dealer that carries both brands.

Possibly. The Mythos is about half the price, and I suspect has less cabinet volume... so unless DefTech is simply much better at producing speakers (EDIT) or unless there's considerable savings to be had via supply chain.. which is entierly possible (/EDIT): I would expect the Studio 60 to beat it on a FR chart. As to what sound an individual listener would prefer: absolutely, they should listen to both.

If Aesthetics are important: the Mythos is less deep, the Paradigm is less tall.

 

[ryneex]

Thanks for the responses. I called the paradigm store and they only carry mini monitors to audition. Its really crazy that a city like las vegas that has 2 million people has no audio store that carries paradigm and has a showroom. I guess forget about hearing them. I guess part of my problem is i cant seem to integrate my subwoofer to sound right with them. I think for the price i paid i should just keep them and maybe pick up a more musical subwoofer since my svs pb12 plus 2 seems kinda slow to me. I was thinking of selling it and picking up a rythmik sub because from what im reading it would integrate better with the mythos. Like i said im using them just for music until i add a new tv and and center and surrounds. My listening even then will be 80/20 music mostly.

I guess i need to keep researching all i can and learn how to calibrate everything and that might be a huge factor in my thinking that the mythos are not that great. thanks for the help everyone.

 

[JerryLove]

Sub integration is generally a non-problem.

The following lists as a Paradigm Reference (has Studios) Showroom (can see in store) near you:
http://www.paradigm.com/en/dealer_locator/paradigm_results.php?DealerSelect=634&type=Normal&&zip=89106

I guess part of my problem is i cant seem to integrate my subwoofer to sound right with them.

If you describe the problem, perhaps we can give yo some advice. It could be crossover, room positions, gain setting, etc.

According to an earlier poster (though I'm dubious just based on size, cost, and drivers), the speakers run to 20Hz, and so should not require a sub unless you are pushing below that.

 

[solomr2]

Sub integration is generally a non-problem.

The following lists as a Paradigm Reference (has Studios) Showroom (can see in store) near you:
http://www.paradigm.com/en/dealer_locator/paradigm_results.php?DealerSelect=634&type=Normal&&zip=89106

If you describe the problem, perhaps we can give yo some advice. It could be crossover, room positions, gain setting, etc.

According to an earlier poster (though I'm dubious just based on size, cost, and drivers), the speakers run to 20Hz, and so should not require a sub unless you are pushing below that.

The Mythos have four 5.25" drivers and 2 radiators inside a 48" X 6" x 6" enclosure, rated at 20-30K, 92db. The Paradigm Studio 60s have three 5.5" drivers and one port inside a 40" x 7" x 11" enclosure, rated at 45-22K, 92db. (source: manufacturer's web site).

I've never tested the frequency on my Mythos, so I can't verify their numbers, but I highly doubt they can really produce 20hz. I suppose if you want to scour the internet you could find some actual lab tests on both of these speakers, but I would be willing to bet you're not going to find, feel or hear huge differences in sound pressure between these two speakers.

Regardless, with drivers this small, you're going to want to use a sub anyway, with either one of these speakers. And the dimensions of your listening environment should be considered in the final decision also. I have mine in a fairly small 13 x 13 room, with a supercube sub. It is ample for my listening environment, and can rattle the windows with relative ease. But I don't think these would be my first choice for a bigger room.

 

[ryneex]

Yeah thats the dealer i called and he said his showroom is two mini monitors and a sub. Im so annoyed with paradigm that they lack a adequate supplier in this big of a city is crazy.

My room is 25 x 21 its a really big room. Im actually pleased with the highs and mids its just getting the tight quick bass sounds. I have been reading about the rythmik subs being good for music so i might end up picking one of their subs and maybe that would give me the accurate quick bass im craving. For the price i bought the mythos most likely will just keep them.

 

[Davemcc]

If I understand you correctly, the big issue you're having is with the sub and how it blends with the speakers, not with the speakers themselves. I doubt you can achieve your goal of "quick" bass by swapping subwoofers. I suspect that it's not the sub causing the "slow" bass but rather the room modes and reflections of the room that give it an echoic sound. The PB12-Plus2 is no slouch in either the quality nor quantity department. I suggest that you attempt to tame the room with some bass traps and/or active bass management before running out and getting another sub. If it's the acoustics of the room causing the perceived problems with your bass, any new sub will also suffer from the same effect. Treating the room will also help you achieve the seamless transition between sub and speakers that you want.

 

[ryneex]

davemcc- I gotta do some research on making the acoustics of the room better. My room is large with solid floors and 3 large windows not the best for sound i suppose. thanks i will look up bass traps and active bass management. There is so much to learn about my wife is starting to wanna kill me cause i spend to much time trying to figure this audio perfection out.

 

[Davemcc]

Just start here.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8119