My turn to be that Moron !!!

[TimF]

You might want to listen to Phase Technology's PC series. Here is a location in your area that carries them:

Techteriors
By Appointment
Milwaukee WI, 53209
P: 262-243-9800

 

[Warpdrv]

also have to remember that I need some large output speakers, to pressurise that 8200 cu ft room... where as I don't think medium size speakers that are pretty will provide enough Ummmph to get the job done... Maybe Im wrong here... But that is what I have been brought to believe upon reading, and talking to my dealers...

Warp

 

[Ryan8886]

Warpdrv,

Noticed earlier that you're thinking about an SVS Plus Series for your sub. While money doesn't seem to be that huge an issue for you, I just figured I'd let you know that SVS is raising the prices on the Plus series subs after January 1st. So you may want to look into the sub now. I'm only working with about 3000 cubic feet and went with the 25-31PCi. LOVE it! Sounds like your budget will really let you shake the wall studs though! As for how much sub you need, give them a call, they are really helpful and don't try to sell you anymore sub than you need. Sounds like you're putting together a really great system!

 

[GreenJelly]

I looked and looked at your post, and couldnt find some specifics that I feel make a difference.

First... NO TO Paradigm's... look at other threads here to find out why... Also, I dont like the sound, but thats my personal opinion

Are these speakers for music only? If not then...
do you want a 5.1 system, does your budget include that of a receiver and or amp, and what is the primary usage for this system (music or HT)?

For your music selection, I MUST recommend the Thiels. I sold my CS.5's to pay for my B&W 600 series, and though the 600 is an amazing speaker that performs well on a much larger scale of music assortment, I regret selling them. Your specific choice of music preference will make you very happy with the Thiels.

If you want to go to HT, for around 5000 you would meet my next recommendation. Since your space is SO large I would highly recommend you step up and go with a 7.1 system. I have yet to recommend this to anyone in any thread, however I must admit that you have some very specific needs that demands a higher level of spread.

Therefore here is my suggestion for NEW speakers

First you want a pair of
604's at $1800 (new)
a single LCR $600 (new)
2 pairs 602.5's $500 (new) maybe $550, but check compare it with the 602's ($100 less then the .5's) for some people prefer the sound and many prefer bookshelf’s for surrounds
It would be wise to bring home a set of CDS6’s for your home auditon.

Subwoofer, you must ask someone else... I’m not impressed with mine, its a B&W... Marantz 7XXX series (they are releasing a new version very soon with some amazing features)

If you go USED, then I would push you to find a good Thiel Surround Sound System. However Power itself for these systems could suck out a good portion of your cash.

Total $3400 + Sub + Receiver... Will breach the $5000 but not by much.

You may also look for B&W's used, they sell for around 2/3 the original price, and are supported by B&W.

As far as Space is concerned, if you need more oomph, I would up my Rears to 603's. These speakers are amazingly powerful, and are really impressive in large open spaces (I am running a 5.1 setup in a 5000 sq foot space using 2 pairs of 603's, a Marantz 7300 a LCR600 and a ASW 650)

 

[Warpdrv]

Thanks GreenJelly for your suggestions...

My budget was for speaks... $5-6K all else is seperate and I will be getting an amp... probably a Rotel 1095... I will be getting a Sub, and a temporary reciever until some better pre\processors come out... thinkin Rotel, but who knows.. This will be surrounding my 50" 9UK panny
Speaks will be for both 2 channel music and 5.1 HT.. I watch alot of movies, but I do listen to plenty of music.. I listened to the B&W 600, 700 series, they sounded nice, but I didn't think they had alot of low end... even though I will be using a sub.. After checking out the 803d , I really thought those were awesome... plenty of Low end, and clarity... freakin awesome !!!
But way to much f*uckin $$$
Unfortunately I have to say that I found that the paradigms really sounded the best to me, better then B&W 600 & 700 series..
And I have read all of the stories and inquired to people of thier problems.. which is very disheartening...

Still not sure what Im going to do....

thanks for you tips guys... I really appreciate your help

Warp

 

[Warpdrv]

Warpdrv,

Noticed earlier that you're thinking about an SVS Plus Series for your sub. While money doesn't seem to be that huge an issue for you, I just figured I'd let you know that SVS is raising the prices on the Plus series subs after January 1st. So you may want to look into the sub now. I'm only working with about 3000 cubic feet and went with the 25-31PCi. LOVE it! Sounds like your budget will really let you shake the wall studs though! As for how much sub you need, give them a call, they are really helpful and don't try to sell you anymore sub than you need. Sounds like you're putting together a really great system!

Thanks Ryan for the heads up... I wasn't going to buy until next year, but maybe I will be looking to do something a bit earlier for this reason...

I Have to decide whether I will go with a PB12/plus or the Plus2, I realize I have alot of room to fill, but I have some cheap Klipsch 12 I got for free, and it does pretty well... thinkin I could probably get away with a single plus for now, as I have another room I could toss it to if it doesn't fill the bill, but I doubt it will be a problem.. Im really lookin to get into the lower sound range like the 16hz area, but the Plus/2 drops off quite a bit faster then the Plus..

 

[Warpdrv]

Well I went the Easy on the wallet route for now... and ordered a B-stock PB12+ in Rosewood.... $699. and shipping was $26.00...

At that price, I couldn't pass it up... and I can certainly use it for now, and if it tends to not be enough, I can use it in another room in my house... Hheheh Like my bedroom...

I figured It would tide me over for a bit and It won't ever go to waste !!!
While money doesn't seem to be an object... I do like to save whenever I can...
Most of everything I buy is not just on a whim... I have tons of friends that get me stuff at cost.. but unfortunately in the HT market my choices are very limited, and I didn't like what I can get trhough them...
Warp

 

[dpnaugle]

I'm getting the Paradigm Studio 60 v4 in about 2 weeks. I have auditioned lots of speaks in the last year and really like the digm's. The price is great. the B&W 703's were the closest competition but out of my price range and the 600's just did not quite do it for me. Kef's were great but again, expensive, focal, pro ac, canton, all great but for my budget and ear it was the paradigm's.

I tell you though I am getting really tired of the bashing paradigm is getting in here. You will rarely see someone post what a wonderful Customer service experience they had with a company but you will get the TjMV3's and Hawst's with their horror stories for every product if you look. I have looked around and found matching complements on CS, though less detailed, for every complaint I have read here on paradigm.

I'm not trying to defend Paradigm, I hope I don't have a problem that would lead me to the digm CS. But damn it I like the way they sound and just put down 2K on a pair. This is really killin my buzz.

 

[Warpdrv]

Well It looks like there was a mistake with the B-Stock info...
Unfornately I won't be getting a SVS PB12+.. So apperantly I totally Dropped my wallet and got meself a New Years present... Sprung for a PB12-Plus/2 instead...

I hope its all that they say it is.. Monster of a Sub.. hehhhehe

 

[Cos]

I guess I am suprised by the Paradigm bashing. I have actually called their customer service and while you don't get a live person, they have always called me back ASAP.

I don't think you can get a much better built/sounding spearker for the money. Paradigm is getting smart and starting to price their speakers higher.

I have all v3 with the exception fo the CC 690 I just picked up two days ago. Its a monster of a Center Channel, but well worth the investment

My Setup:
Anthem AVM 50 Pre-Amp
Anthem MCA 50 Amp
Anthem MCA 20 Amp
Paradigm Studio 100s v.3
Paradigm CC 690 Center Channel v4
Paradigm Seismic 12 Sub
(4) Paradigm ADV 470 Surrounds
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I have my old Studio 60 v3 attached to a Denon 2807 reciever in my bedroom for music.

I guess you can say I like Paradigm and I Don't Regret it

 

[Ryan8886]

Well It looks like there was a mistake with the B-Stock info...
Unfornately I won't be getting a SVS PB12+.. So apperantly I totally Dropped my wallet and got meself a New Years present... Sprung for a PB12-Plus/2 instead...

I hope its all that they say it is.. Monster of a Sub.. hehhhehe

Hey Warp!

That is a scary SWEET sub! And you can use it as an extra dinner table when you have company (that thing is friggin HUGE! )!!! Once you get it all set up....pop in Star Wars Episode I and run the pod racing scene.....my (comparatively) little 25-31PCi shook my entire house with it!!!!
As for needing to get down to 16Hz, unless you're listening to pipe organ music, there's not all that much material down that far...particularly in HT. With your room size, you need volume/extension. That PB-12+/2 will give you the best of both worlds with it's ability to adjust tuning! Enjoy your New Year!